If the Dem candidate were a man would PET have been as effective at attacking his health? Some won't ever vote for a woman for prez. WHY?

That's good to know Corey. So you don't have any gender bias. Thank you for your reply and Happy Saturday! :)

Happy Saturday to you as well, my friend! :D

Thank you very much. I appreciate that m'dear! :)

I think many men would NEVER vote for a woman though they may say otherwise. A lot of men don't want a woman supervisor either. But I also believe that some/many women would not vote for a woman. They feel safer with a "daddy" to protect them. A "mommy" is supposed to love them but "Daddy" is the family protector. I have no doubt it's how they are raised. Very early on our parents teach us how to value other people and ourselves.Thank you for your thoughtful reply Ddb TD. Your second paragraph begs to be expanded upon and explained if you have the time and the inclination! :)

That's very good Tom. You have no gender bias. Thank you for your reply and Happy Saturday! :)

SO you are admitting men and women are equal then..  they dont need or deserve any special consideration.. but then you start talking about feminists... but there's no need for feminism if everyone's like you all nice and for equality.. and she wouldn't be criticised for what she wears, cos it doesn't matter right? And she doesn't have to be attractive, cos Trump sure isn't....well this is all cool stuff.. good to see you don't buy into the women should stay home and make babies rubbish...

I happen to know a thing about Margaret THatcher.. she was the kind who most right wing thinking men hate.. a strong woman, a total bitch who manipulated and got what she wanted BY ACTING LIKE A MAN... most people hated here here and most do NOT remember her fondly... but hey I am impressed you feel women shouldn't be women and that in order to compete in the arena of politics they have to BE LIKE MEN.. so in other words you mean they have to be foul mouthed and hateful? Selfish, narcissistic? 

I see you are still suffering from your paranoia over lefty's .. many people have conspiracy theories but you have leftist conspiracies lol where you see leftism in everything you don't agree with  :P

PS Margaret Thatcher was a conservative..  yes.. as was David Cameron, as is Teresa May

I had asked for you to expand on your feelings about your Prime Minister m'dear on your reply to the question but you did so very nicely here for which I thank you! :) Thatcher and Reagan were best buddies apparently.  Emphasis on the "buddies". So the folks she "served" didn't much like her. Well folks here don't much like the second-place loser who will  be prez come January 20. And so it goes! :(

The word "equality" means different things to different people. Left and right have a completely different definition of it.

The left like to pretend that men and women are the same in every way. This is completely false. We have massive psychological differences that are not social constructs. The psychology is in our DNA to a large extent. It can't be changed. (Things like a woman's appearance mattering more than a man's are hardwired. It's just the way it is. It's like the sky being blue.)

The right believe that men and women are equal in the sense that we have equal rights under law and neither is inherently superior or inferior to the other. Though we don't believe men and women are the same, or should be treated the same by the culture. We believe that some gender roles are essential. Everyone should be free to do as they want, though to be successful a culture must encourage men and women to step into certain roles.

The right believe in a meritocracy. If a woman can compete at the highest level in a particular field, great. If she can't, tough. More men than women can compete at the highest levels and any attempt to impose equality will just weaken society.

Feminism is a far left ideology that is completely destructive. All the countries that obsess over feminism have very low birth rates. They are weak dying cultures. Soon they will be replaced by strong cultures like Islam. This post was edited by Zeitgeist at December 3, 2016 4:22 AM MST

So much to disagree with there I wouldn't know where to start.. well I would but it would take a very long post to do so.. however, just a few points...
>>The left like to pretend that men and women are the same in every way. This is completely false. We have massive psychological differences that are not social constructs. The psychology is in our DNA to a large extent. It can't be changed. (Things like a woman's appearance mattering more than a man's are hardwired. It's just the way it is. It's like the sky being blue.)>>

There is actually no proof of that and what evidence there is demonstrates that most of the differences, aside from the physical ones are nurture rather than nature.. many of the brain differences have been hyped up and when you look into them the studies were not at all what we were led to believe.. for instance some of the brain differences, as in how a male or female reacts to an emotional stimuli were carried out on dead FISH.. or dead people!  Other studies were carried out on ONLY Men or ONLY women and/or very, very few samples and are not scientific at all... 

Yes there are differences but it's not proven that just because women have a larger this part and a man a smaller that part of the brain that the brain works differently - it might be that men need fewer neurons in one area to get the same result or that women need fewer neurons in another part to get same results.. there is no proof that men are actually less sensitive to emotions than women.. 

It's a myth that there is or even can be gender neutral parenting and it starts before they are even born and continues at a pace after.. boys are given x toys, and discouraged from playing with y toys.. etc. and this IS proven.. scientifically..

However, even without that.. we have evidence, real evidence that things are changing.. for instance. men didn't used to be nurses.. now they can and do.. and are JUST as caring and attentive as women.. At one time women were thought to be less intelligent than men... because they had a smaller brain... now we know that isnt true.. it's smaller cos women are generally smaller... it doesn't imply less intelligence.. and at one time it was thought women were incapable of becoming doctors... now we know they can.. and indeed women now outnumber men in terms of studying to become doctors.. 

And look at stereotypes.. it has long been believed that women aren't as good at maths as men.. well in some countries there is no difference... and what's more.. there is now evidence that for example in the UK girls are beginning to be able to be equal or sometimes out perform  boys in studying higher level maths..
SO you have to question our belief that women are in some way less good at certain things.. or that men are less good at certain things.. If women were intrinsically less able to DO maths then they wouldn't suddenly be able to study the higher levels and compare favourably with men... 

Your point that men are in the top whatever it was ... ahh but there are very real social and cultural constraints on women that explain why this is.. including that child birth, something restricted to women, does significantly count against women and it's been shown that where two parents could share childcare equally it does still get left to women largely.. and there is NO reason why it should. there is NO reason why men cannot do just as good a job.. that was known back in the 60s read attachment theory psychology.. it doesnt have to be a woman the baby attaches to... 

I actually agree men and women are different.. but not for the reasons we have been led to believe. not because of supposed limitations... those are very largely in the mind and culture.. 

FWIW tho there is NO WAY women's appearance is more *important* than mens.. nope.. only in limited minds.. it doesn't matter at all .. and women mostly DONT take care of their appearance because of men :P

The mistaken idea that we NEED higher birthrates is actually very outdated.. we are over populated as it is.. population has grown.. and continued to grow. the idea we need to have large families went out with scientific advances which meant lower mortality rates.. In many muslim countries there is still high death rates among mothers and children, not helped by practices such as child brides... 

Intelligent people believe men and women should have equal status... extremists believe some very questionable ideas.. enough said.. 

THis started when you said Hilary should be treated equally as in not treated gently.. but illogically you say that then say something like that women's appearance is important. you cant have both.. if a woman is accepted as being able to stand in that arena then she is no diffrent in terms of how she looks.. there are many unattractive male and female politicians.. 

The science on the matter is controversial as politically loaded questions always are. Believe what you will.

I never said we needed high birthrates. I said we can't have low birth rates. Any country under a birth rate of 2 is dying. The E.U. average is 1.6 and even that number is largely because of immigration from high birth rate cultures. The western world is dying. It has serious economic consequences. Society, especially in more left wing countries, is a ponzi scheme that relies on enough young people paying into the system to avoid collapse. 

"This started when you said Hilary should be treated equally as in not treated gently.. but illogically you say that then say something like that women's appearance is important. you cant have both".
This post was edited by Zeitgeist at December 3, 2016 2:58 PM MST

Thank you for your reply TZ and Happy Saturday to thee. Suggestion. Get a better picture to represent you. That one is not flattering at all.

For some reason parts of your reply are missing HarryD. Thank you for your thoughtful reply and Happy Saturday to thee!  Do you have any clue as to what might have happened to the rest of your answer?

I can see it all on my phone, Rosie! Perhaps there is something wrong at your end?