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How can I ask employer about a set schedule?

The woman I have helped nanny for is very kind, flexible, but, she has continued to change my morning time, every week. (based on when the toddler is waking up) ... normally I go to a family and have a set time, in advance, and if the child is up or not, I am there, maybe doing side tasks, but still have a set time already made. Sometimes she'd text me early in a.m. for a few weeks, saying a half hour difference of when to come, but I asked if we could just say a set time .. she replied if we could do a different time (than the one we had been doing for a month ) b/c she might be busier... but now again, it is back to 'I will contact you about the time' , but she still has not for tomorrow, and I don't know how to say, w/out seeming rude or bossy ( I HATE confrontation) ' could we do a set morning time.. ?' How would you go about it?

Posted - December 13, 2016

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    You don't really have a choice but to be a little bossy/ assertive if you want the problem solved. It's harder to backtrack if you don't set forth the expectations in advance, but you may be able to work with it anyway. Just be aware that you shouldn't overplay your cards. i.e. If you aren't prepared to find another job, don't say you refuse to be flexible. 

    In this case, you could try a couple of things. 

    1) Remind her you need to be on a specific schedule and then don't let her change it.

    2) Be proactive and contact her ahead of time to verify times.

    3) Ask her to write up a contract or volunteer to write one- not that the contract will ever really be used as an argument, but because it should help remind her that she has agreed to a specific time.

    4) Tell her you have an ongoing appointment every day after work and you cannot miss it. Tell her it's whatever time you're not willing to work after. This way, she'll either have to have you come earlier and help with other things or she'll miss out on covered time... This is a double-edged sword. She may not be willing to move on time and may insist on flexibility on your part, in which case, you'd better be prepared to find a new job.

    The other things to think about are what her true motivations here are. You previously said you thought she just enjoyed getting the little one up because she's a first-time mom. If this is the case, then she may just be trying to maximize her downtime or lower her own costs. Is she keeping you late for your benefit because she thinks you need the money or because she wants to have the maximum hours free? If it's free time, perhaps setting a departure time is best. You may get your hours cut some, but you'd know when you leave every day and she'll get roughly the same number of hours covered each day between your coverage and the baby's sleep schedule. Also, her failure to communicate could just be new mom sleep deprivation, in which case, it's beneficial for you to lead discussions and give reminders. 

    Keep in mind, you're the "expert" here. She doesn't know anything about hiring a nanny or being an employer. You do. So, it doesn't hurt to say things like, "Most of my previous clients..." or "It's standard in the industry to..." and express what the benefit to the standard procedure is. i.e. "Most of my previous clients kept me on a set schedule, which made it very easy for me to plan my day/ plan my time with the child/ make arrangements to be available." You can soften these statements if you must, but you do have to be somewhat firm. You're setting the tone for the duration of your working relationship. 
      December 13, 2016 10:58 PM MST
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    Thank you so much *huggg. Being someone who was pushed down on SO much, nearly daily, I have always thought I have no rights, and now with PTSD and anxiety I don't WANT to ever 'speak up' half the time :( But, it's just getting to the point that it is being changed or 'maybe' will change, every week. I just want at least a start OR end time in which I KNOW what it is. Both start or end times are not 'set'. And I like how you said you can play around it a little but be firm, but I'm not full time; so I know w/full time nannies often have a contract or set time. However I do not think it totally unreasonable that even part time I know what my hours are, at least on the start time... I have always always known at Least one day in advance or more, what my beginning time is. (regardless if the child is up for day or not... ) I think she just wants some time w/him honestly in a.m. to get him up/feed, but then we should just say ok, a half hour after he 'typically ' gets up, so say x : xx  a.m. And that's another thing u brought up... I DO have a set appt. to be at now, and I barely have any time to eat before it at night, if she gets home late that day, which is 50 / 50... so now I'd have to say that too ; when I'm not 'sure' she could accomodate my time to leave.... I guess I 'll find a way to softly ask her.. ty so much J.... I just feel I am being 'bossy' but i have been very flexible overall.... also, this is someone who is a family friend, who I began child care for, so it feels like sometimes boundaries are just a bit skewed, times wise... (notifying me... ) overall I do enjoy her, and child , so it makes it hard to just leave , I don't want that route ... ty again so much  JA
      December 13, 2016 11:13 PM MST
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