OH passes law banning abortion after 20 weeks. (Pain capable act) Should this law expand nationally?

Au contraire.  It should be amended (slightly) instead.  Abortions after 20 weeks are quite rare, but there are many health conditions that, while not impacting the safety of the mother, will mean a child will not be born alive, or will live for only a short time after birth.  So far as I can tell, this bill takes no account of that issue, insisting that a mother's life must be in danger before being allowed to seek an abortion.

That strikes me as not only silly in the extreme, but indicative of a design which is not interested in the mother's health.  Looked at logically, there is no point in allowing a pregnancy to progress with some conditions, especially where doing so will increase danger to the mother.  

I am aware this has been amended already.  It's effect on the health of mothers with pregnancy difficulties would have been greater in it's original draft.  Since it can be amended and can therefore be amended again, I see no reason to apply law which actively inhibits the pursuit of 'health'.

I take the Regressive Party approach of extending abortions to 323 trimesters.
Kids will finally be able to abort their parents.  Full family abortions.

Oh my.  A political and religious question all bundled into one.  I hope no one leaves because of this.

NO.  It should NOT.  OF COURSE. 

*Grabs popcorn*

Yet another nibbling at the edges of Roe v. Wade so the political right can continiue to tell its supporters, "We're doing something about those damn abortionists!" without outright banning abortion (which potentially could tip the political balance in the country towards the Democratic party).

I've been seeing this since the late 1970s. Nothing new to see here.

I was actually surprised Kasich vetoed the Heartbeat Bill.     

That's the law here in Az. I had to look it up to see how it differs across the country. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/18/us/politics/abortion-restrictions.html?_r=1& I didn't realize some states have no cutoffs on dates or viability.


I think we should stop and think about why abortion is legal... I think most would agree that it's a legal choice because some people aren't prepared to have children or cannot care for them. (These laws aren't generally about abortions for medical needs. Most states allow exceptions for medical issues, though Ohio does not seem to.) Considering that pregnancy tests are super accurate and can detect pregnancy almost immediately after conception occurs- we're talking a matter of days at this point- most women know that they're pregnant right away- at the 3-4 week mark. Why would a woman wait 17 weeks (4 months) to decide she wants to have an abortion? It's illogical. If she wants to have an abortion, she'll probably do it in the first trimester (before week 12 is up).

The majority of abortions in 2013 took place early in gestation: 91.6% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.1%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.3%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation. In 2013, 22.2% of all abortions were early medical abortions. The percentage of abortions reported as early medical abortions increased 5% from 2012 to 2013. Source: MMWR. 2015;64(10) https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/ 

So, we're talking about limiting less than 1.3% of abortions... and that's only a maybe, because, again, these laws don't usually discuss abortion for medical reasons when the pregnancy is not viable. Those are still allowed in most states. What I think that 1.3% mostly represents are abortions performed after the 20-week ultrasound is performed. This is the one that gives an indication of whether the baby may have down syndrome or something like Trisomy 13 or 18.

Now, stop and think for a moment... you get this ultrasound at 20 weeks and find out something may be very wrong with your baby, but you still have to have additional tests which can take 1-2 weeks more to confirm it. Read up on Trisomy 13 and what it presents as and what the outcome is for the baby. Your baby may be born and even live for a while, but he or she will likely be on palliative care from the moment he or she is born. His or her entire short life could be spent in excruciating pain. So, you tell me what's more merciful, because a Trisomy 13 diagnosis doesn't mean that the baby is not viable, even at 39 weeks. If Ohio is using only viability testing that doesn't look at things like this and the actual life a child may have, it's arguably the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's my understanding that this is exactly what Ohio has done. Shame on them. Sometimes, a late-term abortion is the most loving thing a parent can do for their child, and I say that being pro-life. I also support euthanasia or medically assisted-suicide for the same reason.