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What's your take on Breastaurants, like Hooters?

This question is kind of an off shoot of another on the theme of what's been called Breastaurants.
Im sure we are all familiar with the concept having scantily dressed young women serving food and drinks to a mostly male clientele.

Do you see no problem with them? It's all in good fun. Men go in there to have a.beer and something light to eat and in the mean time get to look at and talk to a pretty girl. What's the.problem with that?
The guys look like they're having fun, the girls are having fun and they are making money. 
They are empowered young women who are free to choose how to earn a living and at the end it is their body to show. Their business.
Isn't that the same thing everybody else does anyway, when they hire pretty girls to be.waitresses at high class restaurants?
Everybody should just relax it is not new or a big deal.

Or...

Is this just another example of a situation in which women are valued according to the way they look and how much they accommodate themselves to their male customers? Is it just a place for men to feel free to stare and make comments in a way that otherwise or in a different place would be behaviour frowned upon? 
Having them present themselves like that immediately shows them as objects.
It is denigrating towards and exploits women, excuses adolescent behaviour in men, and it's hardly an example neither for girl nor boys.

Posted - January 28, 2017

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  • I once met a young lady who earned her money on her back. When she wasn't in bed she worked in a restaurant. While she didn't object to being manhandled in the bordello she objected strongly to men groping her when she was waitressing.

    I think that your breastaurants would be like that. The girls would be vulnerable and would have to put up with a certain amount of drunken groping. 

    If they're not unhappy with that then I suppose it's OK. It's not something I would want for any of my friends or family and it's not a place I'd go to eat, but I wouldn't impose my prejudice on them either. 
      January 28, 2017 3:25 AM MST
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  • But see that's the thing right there, Mr D, and using your own words, is it not placing those girls in a vulnerable position in which they must tolerate a certain amount of drunken grouping, . . . Is that not enough to make it objectionable?
      January 28, 2017 12:44 PM MST
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  • Of course it's objectionable. But if they want to work there shouldn't the choice be theirs?
      January 28, 2017 12:57 PM MST
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  • Of course, of course!
      January 28, 2017 1:27 PM MST
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  • Had you said it one more time it would be a three course answer. Appropriate for a breastaurant question, I think. :) 
      January 28, 2017 1:33 PM MST
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  • That's clever!
    And you are right, very appropriate for some kind of special birthday dish.
    The Three Course Big Ass Birthday Gut Buster. . .or something. ...where they bring you a big ass mountain of corn chips, with cheese and salsa and a big ass beer. . . served inside a big ass Mexican sombrero,. . .with the customary caution, "be careful señor, the sombrero is very hot". 

      January 28, 2017 2:06 PM MST
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  •   January 28, 2017 2:17 PM MST
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  • I have no problem with them but it's been a long time since there was any of them around here. If the women want to work there and dress like that? Then that's their choice. This is America still and last I heard? It was still free.
      January 28, 2017 6:29 AM MST
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  • It would be difficult to argue against that, certainly.
    And for a second there Mr Rooster, I thought, well . . Nothing I can say to that...
    But then I thought, that my voluntary participation in a certain activity does not make that activity right or wrong No?
    I mean, I could be a lady of the night in Nevada, voluntarily, but that does not particularly make it right. I don't thik.
    But at the end, I still think you're right.
    People should be free to do as they want. Of course.
      January 28, 2017 12:54 PM MST
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  • I'm just a single guy that likes pretty women. LOL
      January 28, 2017 12:57 PM MST
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  • Hey man, can't argue against that either. )
    Thanks Mr R.
      January 28, 2017 1:26 PM MST
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  • Personally, I think it's disgusting. I don't, and would never patronize a place like this...even if the people working were male. Of course...the women who work there..choose to, knowing what their job description, and "uniform" or lack thereof, is. It's just not for me.
      January 28, 2017 6:33 AM MST
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  • You know, I always hear the objections to places like this framed around the girls that work there. They are either victims or con women, and I get that.
    But what about the men?
    According to you, what kind of man frequents this kind of place?
      January 28, 2017 1:01 PM MST
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  • One that wants to have a beer and ogle boobs!
      January 28, 2017 2:42 PM MST
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  • Hahaha
    That's very funny!
    Somehow I get the impression you do not have in high esteem the beer drinking boob ogling kind of guy.
    Even though I understand everybody s right to as they please, I think there's something not totally right with a business model for restaurants based solely on young women showing some part of their body's and the men that go look at them.
    I understand your point. Thank you Angela.
      January 28, 2017 3:43 PM MST
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  • Eh... most men are gonna ogle a woman's boobs if they're spilling out of their shirt doesn't really say anything bad about the men as I think under "normal" circumstances that is just nature....I understand the distaste for "those" types of restaurants though
      January 28, 2017 4:19 PM MST
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  • I understand.
      January 28, 2017 4:39 PM MST
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  • 6124
    Hi Lago.  I don't have any strong feelings about it.  I've been to Hooters a couple of times.  Some men just look, some don't, some think the way the women dress is an open invitation to be hit on or groped.   I can understand a woman needing to earn a living but frankly, I don't understand why they would trade off the possibility of a few extra bucks to place themselves in a position where the situation may become uncomfortable or dangerous.  We all know there are plenty of guys who aren't right in the head when it comes to women.  They think a woman who dresses like that is waiving an open invitation.


    For me, it's not my kind of place.

    I don't like the food.  
      January 28, 2017 6:58 AM MST
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  • Do you not think so?
    Do you not think that women dressed that way send a message of let's say availability?
    To elicit a certain response from the guy sitting there? I mean, I thought that was the whole point, no?
      January 28, 2017 12:57 PM MST
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  • 6124
    Well, you asked what my take on those restaurants was in your main question so I answered from my POV.  For me, it's just not as cut and dry as the two options you have laid out in the sub text.

    Not sure about your first question here but, in answer to your second question, for the most part no, I don't think so.  I think they dress that way because it's their job.  I believe most women who choose to work there do so because they like (or at least don't mind) the attention and hope it will earn them big tips.  But sending out a message of "availability"? No, I don't think most are doing that.  I suppose there will always be a few who are actively looking to hook up with a guy I guess and there will be those who actually want guys to hit on them.  But, I think most are just trying to earn a good living either while in school or as an alternative to school.  

    In answer to your last two questions, yes, I think it's to elicit a horn dog response in the customer but I don't believe it is the "whole point" of the establishment.  The owners definitely don't want guys interfering with or grabbing their wait staff and, I think for the most part, the women don't want men to grope them or harass them while they are working.  The "whole point" of those places is for the owner to make a ton of money off their customers.  The horny dog response is a by product of the marketing tactic.  The girls flirt, the guys will return again.  And again.  And again.  And each time, the guys order food, a lot of drinks, and flirt with the girls.  And each time, they spend a lot of money.  I give a lot of credit to the guy that started the business.  Genius.
      January 28, 2017 1:47 PM MST
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  • I understand Mr H. 
    Im not sure if the conduct you allude to is a by product as if they were surprised that this would happen. But I do agree with you when you say that this.girls., they just want to do a job and go home. 
    I doubt that after six or seven even hours on their feet, flirting is what they have in mind.
    As far as the guy being a genius, I'd have to give you that one. He definitely hit on something that keeps getting copied. 
    Like the guy with the girls gone.wild video series. 
      January 28, 2017 3:51 PM MST
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  • 6124
    I meant by product just as a secondary result, not as a surprise or unintended consequence.  

    Yes, Joe Francis is a very smart guy.  Too bad he is such a piece of garbage too.  Very poor judgement among other things. 
      January 28, 2017 4:21 PM MST
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  • 5451
    I've never eaten at one. I asked my husband and he said he's never been to one either. I don't have an opinion about them one way or the other.

    I might buy a Hooters uniform to add to my uniform collection.  Umm yeah, uniforms add to the fun lol. This post was edited by Livvie at January 28, 2017 2:25 PM MST
      January 28, 2017 2:22 PM MST
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  • 3934
    I suppose so long as pornographic materials, stripper bars, and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue exist, it is difficult to say establishments like Hooters should be banned.

    I think Breastaurants send the wrong message, but on the list of issues relating to women having nominally equal rights in society, that's pretty far down the list.

    Personally, I think this restaurant concept should become a reality...;-D...

      January 28, 2017 2:24 PM MST
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