Latinos for Trump? Isn't that like Jews for Jesus? I mean do these people have a clue?

So all Latinos have to agree on all issues? Do all blacks, whites and Asians also have to walk lock step with their race? We all have different opinions and different values and we all have that right as long as we are not harming others.

The judge is a member of a group called 'La Raza Lawyers'.  Whether or not they have ties to the group 'La Raza', I'd be as concerned about his ability to be unbiased as I would a white judge who belonged to 'Aryan Lawyers'.

Hello my:

Just a quick correction...  Jews for Jesus is a misnomer..  It's like saying Vegans for Steak..  Jews for Jesus aren't Jews.  They're Christians.

excon

I had not heard that....I wish when Trump would have said that rather than what I heard him say which on about heritage.

By that logic an atheist cannot be Jewish....

Hello again, my:

Ok.  you win.

excon

People who are born Jewish can be atheist or Catholic.  They are not practicing anything remotely Jewish.   The person is the traditions.   If I am Jewish and I live in China and become Buddhist, I may still be Jewish, but my faith is not Jewish, my traditions are not Jewish and I don't call myself a Jew for Buddha.  I am just Buddhist.

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Jewish atheism refers to the atheism of people who are ethnically and (at least to some extent) culturally Jewish. Because Jewish identity encompasses ethnic as well as religious components, the term "Jewish atheism" does not inherently entail a contradiction.

Based on Jewish law's emphasis on matrilineal descent, even religiously conservative Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept an atheist born to a Jewish mother as fully Jewish.^[1] A 2011 study found that half of all American Jews have doubts about the existence of God, compared to 10–15% of other American religious groups.^[2]

I understand that Jew can be used to indicate religious affiliation, and/or hereitage and/or culture.  Personally I think there should be different words for each. To eleminate confusion as to what if being talked about. But I don't get to make the rules. In your example, even if you converted to Buddhism you could still refer to yourself a a Jew.  Even a Jew for Buddha.  

 

My comment about an atheist not being a Jew was directed towards excon who stated that:

"Jews for Jesus aren't Jews.  They're Christians."

You know, having pride in your culture or joining a group because you are a minority within a certain group, doesn't mean your anti any other group. I have tons of non Latino family, but in college I joined a La Raza group because unfortunately seeing other people who looked like me was rare. We didn't conspire against other races or groups. We spent a little time together and shared things we had in common. It helped me feel less like an outsider and my friends there encouraged me to go outside my comfort zone. The judge is from the same city I'm from and there is a large Latino community. In addition, if there is a person of Latino heritage looking for an attorney that they feel they can relate to, looking at a group called LaRaza would be a great place to start. Finally, members of all ethnic backgrounds join groups for networking reasons , it's good business. It may not be called the Aryan Country Club but the reasons are the same.

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No.  There is a huge difference, My 2.   When someone stands behind ideas  not friendy to their race, harmful to their race and lies about their race to get ahead somehow?  When someone   turns to the ones that are downing their race so they can get ahead?  That is not the same, is it?

There is a difference between stereotyping and being an opportunistic coward.  I don't stand on my brother's neck because it helps ME out.  Not for any reason. 

It is fine to disassociate as much as you like and even marry outside of your race and carry on with your spouse's traditions if he is another race.   You can leave your tribe, no problem.  But if your spouse HATES your race, or looks down on it as a race that is not as good?  Then it is time to take a stand. 

I don't align myself with being white, but I don't turn on white people to get ahead.  That is the fine line.

I seem to remember that Jesus was a Jew?

Anyhow, Kinky Freeman had something to say about the Jews' attitude toward Jesus. Seems like an appropriate response to this question . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsoYKoqW5jM

Archie's Girl

Do you have any IDEA what this question is about?  AT ALL?   Do you have a CLUE?

What has this got to do with Donald Trump?  Anything?  I don't care what Aryan groups you like.  You can live in Alaska and marry an Eskimo for all it matters, of course.

  This is DONALD TRUMP denigrating your people.  YOUR people and MY people because we are all ONE people.  We are not adoring subjects of King JERKOFF.  He thinks he really has something of value to say,  and to have some ignorant (sorry but they ARE)  Latinos parading around glorifying a person that has ZERO respect for them or anyone that doesn't follow his idiocies on a daily basis, needs to take a backseat and stop embarrassing themselves and harming the country with STUPID.   This is no time to be STUPID.  This is time to take a STAND against this special kind of hater.  He is ready to make anyone an enemy who does not agree with his policies.  And he has no policies.  NONE.  He stands for NOTHING.  Tell me what he stands for?  I cannot wait. 

The only hope we have is the Latino's telling Trump to piss off.   And to have a bunch of silly posers who have no concept of politics in America parading around glorifying Trump so they can give some speech somewhere and hear some applause for five minutes, is SAD.

I don't care about how worldly you are.  You cannot understand this question?  You cannot understand much.  

(as IF I need schooling on being open-minded. Give me a break here)

Djam-rona,
Yes, I know what the question is about. I was responding to BR_8093. Your open mindedness is so evident in your response to me and oh your respect for your people or others in general. Sorry I confused you, next time I'll be more clear.

I had no troubles understanding your valid reply on BR_8093, and your efforts making him as the rest of us aware of your community, and how to look at it. Sometimes people need to actually sit down and read the stuff before rolling over them. We might be able to learn new stuff. Isn't it what it's about in a place like this site? My advice? Keep it on like you've done.

@Sharonna, bear in mind how you respond on other people's questions. You define your own rules. I would have expected more tolerance from your side. Not the least as the reply by Archiesgirl was in line to the comment she was replying on. Hmm.

That's one way of looking at it.

Thanks SapphicHeart.  

I dont think you truly understand the term Latino. Or Latin American. 

As I understand it, LaRaza's motto, at least at one time, was (paraphrased) 'Everything for those who are of 'the race', nothing for those outside 'the race'.  The term 'La Raza' means 'the race' anyway, so at the very least it gives an impression of preferential treatment for other Hispanics.

Some people are sophisticated enough to not get caught up in identity politics. Or at least they place their identity in being a U.S. citizen and doing what is right for U.S., not in doing what is right for foreigners who happen to have the same skin pigmentation as them.

BR_893, you're right, it does mean "the race."  However, that name has been used for groups everywhere, they're not all connected.  That being said, I can't say that motto has never been used with one of those many La Raza groups.  However, I can tell you the branch that I was a part of in college, was not.  Also, we welcomed other ethnic groups.  One of my friends was a Spanish major and black and she was also a member.  My sister was part of a group by the same name, back in our hometown.  They provided tutoring and a safe place to go after school.  There was also community outreach programs.  Many of the children were immigrants or their parents were.  The program was there largely to help immigrant families who might not know where else to get services.  I stand by my previous statement, belonging to a group that targets their services to a certain group does not mean you wouldn't help others or that you hate others.  It simply means you see a need and you want to be involved.  Maybe it's personal because you are the child of immigrants, maybe it's because you want to feel more connected to your culture.  I imagine ( I can't know) that it can be frustrating to Caucasians, that it seems ok to have a Black or Latino or Native American group geared towards the empowerment of but you can't have a white group.  However, I see no problem with Polish, Irish, Italian, Greek, Scottish groups, personally.  Finally, just because you help someone get a leg up, doesn't mean you're trying to step on someone else.  BR, you are entitled to your impression and I even understand it.  I'm not an attorney and not part of that group.  I can only speak of my experience.  I love my non-Hispanic family and friends and I would gladly be part of a LaRaza group if I thought it did good.  However, I would join the Rainbow group too, if I liked what they were about. 

You're welcome. :-)

No.  Sorry. I know what I said and no one else is going there.  AT ALL.  Sorry Saphic but calling me out on any beliefs you think I define myself as, has ZERO to do with this. 

Any idiot that is LATINO that aligns with Trump.  Any PERSON who aligns with Trump is the kind of creature that breaches any other argument.  Latino or not.  That is the POINT.

Old School, that aside, this man belittles Latinos.  This man is not the friend of anything BROWN unless it serves him.  It is a huge mistake to think that getting on the Trump bandwagon is going to get any Latino anyplace unless that Latino is going to step on the necks of his brothers and sisters to serve The Donald and his racist views ON Mexico, Latin America, any 3rd World country and anyone that cannot prove to Donald that they are not planning on overthrowing the government with their terrorist infiltrations.

What Latino in their right mind would get behind this PIG?   I hope you can see this answer because I am getting so sick of this set up where we cannot even have a decent back and forth on here.  When are they going to fix this system? 

I tried Old.  I tried.