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Does Mother Earth Need Us, Her Star-Stuffed Children?

I'm down to the last five pages now of Charles Pellegrino book, UNEARTHING ATLANTIS…and Pellegrino is philosophizing with the underwater sea guy, Jacques Cousteau.

Cousteau says; “People have no respect for the Earth; its power, its majesty. We need it to survive, but it doesn’t need us. The planet existed 4½ billion years without us, and if we’re not careful, we may be as extinct as the brontosaurus one day.”

Well my question, is that really true, is Cousteau correct? Scientist-inventor James Lovelock, and his Gaia hypothesis, that the Earth is a living being…well what if the Earth ‘loves’ us, and if not exactly ‘needing’ us, still thrives better with our presence here?

I know for a fact the Earth can be stronger for our presence; some of the old-time loggers here in Washington State have shown me how a forest can be healthier, more vigorous and beautiful if we come in and log with thoughtfulness!

Posted - March 24, 2017

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  • 6477
    I love, love Jacques Cousteau, a real influence on me and I was tempted to answer yes mother earth loves us, then you reminded me of Jacques and I know he advocated erm population control... so I suppose I would say mother earth loves those who respect it but sadly most don't, including Trump and those who care not about overpopulation 
      March 24, 2017 2:47 PM MDT
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  • DDB, please tell me a bit about ERM population control? I don't know the term...
    And I am intrigued that you do express a sense of lovingness with the Earth and us! I would probably say the same...
      March 24, 2017 3:04 PM MDT
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  • 6477
    Please forgive, that was me being careless and using colloquialisms - erm is a bit like um, er.. in this instance, an attempt at delicate pause to indicate something a little risky, unmentionable. Jacques believed that population should be controlled, for the good of the planet and conservation, here's a wikipedia, I rarely reference that but in this case was just easier.... look for the words, "World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. This is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn't ..."

    Here it is again, his words, 

    "The damage people cause to the planet is a function of demographics — it is equal to the degree of development. One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangaladeshes. The damage is directly linked to consumption. Our society is turning toward more and needless consumption. It is a vicious circle that I compare to cancer...."

    "This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it’s just as bad not to say it."  from http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/030406massculling.htm

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    Ome people find it quite shocking that Jacques who was in many ways a hero, could hold these views and they certainly aren't popular.

      March 24, 2017 3:18 PM MDT
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  • Oh...I read the first part of that article DDB...that is a direction horrific to contemplate.
    Now I understand your erm...
      March 24, 2017 5:12 PM MDT
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  • 6477
    Exactly... it's unthinkable... too awful and too uncomfortable.... 
      March 24, 2017 5:21 PM MDT
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  • Nah. She may have loved us in our infancy but now that we've grown sufficiently cause her grief I think she probably hopes we'll discover space travel and go somewhere else.

    I love the Gaia concept, though I've never thought of it as anything more than fanciful. That doesn't make it any less real than some of the other fanciful things we think of as gospel. There's a division between what is physically real -- things we can measure or boil up in a test tube -- and things that are "real" only in our minds.

    That's getting into woo-woo land, of course, but I've been thinking (a dangerous recreation) and strayed into areas that are more-or-less new to me. Sure, I've been familiar with such ideas most of my life, but the understanding is new. When I've sorted it out -- and it may take months -- I'll email you and see what you think.

      March 24, 2017 3:10 PM MDT
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  • Oh Dozy, I enjoyed that..."hopes we'll discover space travel and go somewhere else..."
    I also am just abiding with the idea of the Earth as a living being, to see how that feels and where it goes...will look forward to your 'sorting-out' e-mail!
      March 24, 2017 4:57 PM MDT
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  • 6477
    "Nah. She may have loved us in our infancy but now that we've grown sufficiently cause her grief I think she probably hopes we'll discover space travel and go somewhere else."  that's kinda how I feel
      March 24, 2017 3:19 PM MDT
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  • Dozy does have a way with words, DDB!
      March 24, 2017 4:58 PM MDT
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  • 6477
    http://www.depopulation.newworldorderuniversity.com/Wordpress/?p=136  that's an interesting, if controversial one.. many famous people quoting, for example Bertrand Russell and Prince Phillip
      March 24, 2017 3:25 PM MDT
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  • I agree with Mr. C. It seems obvious the Earth and the universe do not and cannot care about humans. Or any other life.
      March 24, 2017 3:53 PM MDT
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  • Well (sniff) I hope it all works out with unexpectedness, remarkable to contemplate, W6! This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at March 24, 2017 5:29 PM MDT
      March 24, 2017 5:00 PM MDT
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  • "Mother Earth", while not entirely an inaccurate description, is no more aware of our existence than it is aware of the moon. Hard to fathom it being in favor of our presence, either. We, as ever-multiplying, ever-demanding consumers of our home planet's resources, are more effectively characterized as parasites. We have forgotten how, and cast aside our responsibility, to care for and live in harmony with our natural world. 

    Cousteau personally knew more about the earth himself than entire generations of scientists, and he was on-point in his assessment. How he would've been heartbroken over the mass extinction now occurring on our watch. 
      March 24, 2017 4:52 PM MDT
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  • Oh Zee...
    I recall in one of our very first conversations on Blurt I think it was, and you were kinda/sorta saying how democracy has its good points (or something, not sure now)...and then I asked you if you were optimistic about our future...well, and the truth did out.
    Sometimes I feel sorrowful, sometimes then I think, no we can pull this out still.
      March 24, 2017 5:05 PM MDT
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  • I tell you, Virginia, 
    every month I watch the gulf tides rise ever higher against the retaining wall next to my home, and I see the idiots in positions of power in denial of our need to take it all seriously, hopes of late hour heroics fade a little more. 
    For all of the honorable deeds to enhance our world, concerted human efforts to the contrary or in complete indifference exceed them tenfold. I'm glad to have lived when I did, but I fear for the world my grandkids will inherit.
      March 24, 2017 5:22 PM MDT
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  • I have those moments of fear also.
    I do think the Earth will survive, in the sense of our survivability on it...but...and a huge but, in what condition for our descendants.
      March 24, 2017 5:25 PM MDT
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  •   March 24, 2017 5:22 PM MDT
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  • Glis...I watched it three times...am not sure I 'get it'...a parody of Jacques Cousteau?
      March 24, 2017 5:31 PM MDT
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  • Uh-huh
      March 24, 2017 5:32 PM MDT
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  • 7683
    Hi Virginia we have a TV channel called outside TV. It shows all terrain outdoor activities...I saw this

    Nature doesn’t need people. People need nature.
      March 25, 2017 12:05 AM MDT
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