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I remember not all Americans wanting National Healthcare, especially many in the Republican Party. What has changed to get any plan

passed? Are those against Trump's plan fundamentally opposed to National Health Care no matter whose name is on it?

Posted - March 28, 2017

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  • Trump's plan is not Healthcare plan...It's a tax break for the wealthy
    People opposed to it either know that or they are opposed to the any form of healthcare plan.

    There is only one solution and that orange monkey would do well to speak to Bernie Sanders. He knows exactly what to do.

      March 28, 2017 8:08 AM MDT
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  • It was not a party thing, it is mostly young and healthy people who don't want to spend their money on health insurance.  That is why they were trying to fine them if they did not take it.  The design seemed to be that the well buying insurance would help cover the cost of the sick. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at March 28, 2017 8:36 AM MDT
      March 28, 2017 8:12 AM MDT
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    The Republicans against the plan (the Freedom Caucus) claimed it did not go far enough in taking away benefits from the poor and middle class, and passing the savings on to the wealthy. They are fundamentally opposed to any health care for the poor since the poor are lazy good-for-nothings.

    Other Republicans (so-called "moderates") - also against the plan - claimed it went TOO FAR in the other direction. It changed TOO MUCH from Obamacare and their constituents threatened them with losing their elective position. Neither Republican faction would compromise, hence the plan was pulled from consideration.

    Trump is clueless about the two sides. All he wants is a "win" to show he's better than Obama. Republlicans in general have NEVER had a coherent health care plan that would insure all Americans. It's not in their DNA to think in those terms.

    Speaker Ryan in particular has finally been shown to be the fraud that he is. His failure has enraged Trump who may soon pressure him to resign as Speaker.

    Stand by for the next Republican fiasco - reforming the tax code.

    (Added later - the ONLY healthcare plan that will work is the single payer option. That is how the rest of the civilized world does it).





    This post was edited by Louie at March 28, 2017 9:13 AM MDT
      March 28, 2017 9:09 AM MDT
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  • A lot of it had to do with distrust in the government handling things.   Which is justified considering it was the government getting involved in the first place and promoting HMO's.  First under Nixon.   The system wasn't too terrible since doctors still decided what procedures were necessary and companies still had to cover them.   Then more government involvement in the late 80's and 90's meant it was now up to the HMO's and insurance companies as to what is covered and what doctors could be seen and forced things like Resource Based Relative Value Systems.

    Considering the years of government involvement that resulted in our crappy healthcare situation it isn't a shocker that there was a large group of people weary of getting more government hands in it.
    It's also worth noting that it wasn't so much about having national healthcare as it was about the lies told to people that could keep their plans and doctors ( which wasn't really true) and punishing people with an extra tax who either couldn't afford the mandated insurance,  found the money put into didn't cover jack squat and was a rip-off, or had trouble jumping through the nonsensical and ridiculously bureaucratic circus of signing up for it or getting off of it when they were able to get something better.


    Obamacare should never have been passed and made things much. much worse over-all.  Like trying to put out a grease fire with water.
      March 28, 2017 9:18 AM MDT
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