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By all rights are we not at war with Syria?

Or better put shouldn't we expect Syria to be at war with us?

Posted - April 10, 2017
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  • I think we're closer to proxy war with Russia. 
      April 10, 2017 10:01 AM MDT
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  • 3191
    We have committed an unprovoked act of aggression on a sovereign nation, but realistically, Syria isn't in a position to retaliate.  Nevan has a point, however, given that Russia is Syria's ally, and has actually been invited by Assad to assist Syria in their civil war. This post was edited by Bozette at April 10, 2017 10:24 PM MDT
      April 10, 2017 10:10 AM MDT
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  • The whole world is at war with each other one way or another.    We just don't talk about it in certain terms any more.
      April 10, 2017 10:23 AM MDT
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  • 1002

    We committed an undeclared act of war against Syria. They have not committed aggression against the U.S., prior to this, they had not threatened us, they hadn't even threatened out "strategic interests" (if you go for that sort of thing) abroad.

    We started a war with a sovereign nation that posed no threat, we've retaliated against other nations for far less than what this admin did in Syria. How would our govt. react if another nation bombed one of our air bases? Yeah, I'd say they consider this a war.

    I'm sure most of the foreign nationals of the world only suspected that Trump was a duplicitous liar prior to this, now they know it with certainty.

      April 10, 2017 10:30 AM MDT
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  • A lot of people who dislike him are actually the loudest defenders of this from what I been seeing.
      April 10, 2017 10:42 AM MDT
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  • 1002

    Well, unlike him, the Obama admin went to congress more than once for authorization. Dems left no illusions about their intentions. At least they were straight up about it. They didn't lie to potential constituents for years only to knife them in the back. Furthermore, reps are truly working at hypocrisy by criticizing the Obama admin for inaction.

    One good* thing that may come of this, he may indeed be a one term potus.

    This post was edited by ForkNdaRoad at April 10, 2017 10:27 PM MDT
      April 10, 2017 10:47 AM MDT
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  • Oh I hear ya' and agree.

       I still think it's funny in the ironic sense.     Damn lying warhawks all of 'em. 
      April 10, 2017 10:50 AM MDT
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  • 3191
    Interesting commentary on the support he has received...

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/09/liberals-donald-trump-syria-missile-strikes
      April 10, 2017 11:07 AM MDT
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  • That's because liberalism doesn't really exist in any real context any more.
    These people aren't really liberals in the traditional sense. 
      April 10, 2017 11:19 AM MDT
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  • Well said! Liberalism has been hijacked by moderate conservative hawks...

    I prefer the word progressive...Liberalism is dead
      April 10, 2017 11:26 AM MDT
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  • IDK,   I don't see many progressive thinkers embracing liberalism either.   Liberalism is for the most part a centrist but libertarian philosophy,    but everything is dictated by extremist authoritarians these days whether it's left  or right.   Outcomes are pretty much the same with differences in the reasons for the same conclusions.

      April 10, 2017 11:43 AM MDT
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  • 1002
    Well said!
      April 10, 2017 1:11 PM MDT
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  • Ughhhhhhhh! THe Guardian! My Gawd.  The title makes it seems like all liberals are congratulating trump, but when you read further into the article, you'll see, "Good on Trump, some liberal pundits say"....SOME

    This leftist isn't thrilled or cheering. I see it for what it was. A cheap diversion, nothing more. Nothing less.

    The Warhawks are willing to overlook what is really going on as long as they can get us into another war.
      April 10, 2017 11:24 AM MDT
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  • 3191
    Ha ha, don't get your panties in a bunch, Jak.  I know that not all libs are applauding Trump.  The number who are is interesting, though.  That Trump was held in disdain by western leaders and prominent Dems and they supported his actions, even with qualification, is hypocritical.  For months I have heard whining, crying and gnashing of teeth over the possibility of Trump embroiling us in war.  War hawks don't only sport the Republican label, though.  
      April 10, 2017 11:42 AM MDT
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  • True...I don't know what to make of it. That is the scary part. 
    Mission Accomplished....the normalization for Trump
      April 10, 2017 1:05 PM MDT
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  • 3191
    The labels people go by seem to have less and less to do with the definitions of those words than ever.  Just look at the number of self-proclaimed "libertarians" who voted for Trump, and who supported the likes of Cruz, Carson, Rubio, Bush, and others in the Republican primaries, as an example.  The false left-right paradigm in Washington has increasingly become a few on the far left, a few on the far right, and a whole bunch of them arguing the minutiae of waging war abroad while restricting rights domestically.  

    I guess I just get sick of people hiding behind labels that no longer have any real meaning in a practical sense.  Bush waged unconstitutional wars and had broad support both in Congress and from the general public.  Obama continued and furthered our involvement overseas as well as the erosion of our rights, and had broad support as well.  Sure, there were the diehard Rs and Ds that paid lip service to opposing them, and things each side genuinely disagreed with both over...but when it came to our military flexing its might overseas, most jump on board.  And if we need to give up privacy and rights for a false sense of security...so be it.

    Sorry for the rant, but it truly sickens me.
      April 10, 2017 1:51 PM MDT
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  • Image result for Standing ovation GIF
    This should be the number one comment in Mug history
      April 10, 2017 10:31 PM MDT
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  • 3191
    Thank you, sir.
      April 11, 2017 1:37 AM MDT
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  • Come on buddy dial it back here.   We all know that and that's kind what it's about here.    The "liberal"   Hillary apologist types who look at this and go "well Trump got it right this time and was justified" .  The ones who talk about Trump meaning WW3 and in his first act of possibly making that possibility are kinda excusing it.    The very vocal hypocrites.


    All our frustrations are on the same page. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at April 10, 2017 1:12 PM MDT
      April 10, 2017 11:48 AM MDT
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  • I'm glad you said...             "liberal"   Hillary apologist types

    I don't see people who support Clinton as Liberals.
    She is the primary reason we have that skunk in office. 
    3 Years ago I predicted this would happen. Seriously...It was on that site we dare not mention.  I got into a huge rowe with some people. Man I wish the comments and stuff on it were still available to view This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at April 10, 2017 1:12 PM MDT
      April 10, 2017 1:03 PM MDT
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  • Ayup.   The quotation marks  are important here.
      April 10, 2017 1:06 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Q108. "Who has the power to declare war?"

    A. There is a short answer and a much longer answer. The short answer is that the Constitution clearly grants the Congress the power to declare war, in Article 1, Section 8. This power is not shared with anyone, including the President.

    The President, however, is just as clearly made the Commander in Chief of all of the armed forces, in Article 2, Section 2. In this role, the President has the ability to defend the nation or to take military action without involving the Congress directly, and the President's role as "C-in-C" is often part of the reason for that.


    https://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q108.html


     This post was edited by tom jackson at April 10, 2017 1:24 PM MDT
      April 10, 2017 11:47 AM MDT
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  • This military action wasn't defence,.  It was an offensive act of war.  It wasn't in response to any threat to the US or our interests either.   FAIL!
      April 10, 2017 11:51 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    Did you miss the fact that Syria hasn't declared war on us and we have not declared war on them either.

    What's your point in your response?
      April 10, 2017 12:04 PM MDT
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