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HarryDemon

How is anyone at the Unite the Right rally a fine person?

So the white supremacists, neo-Nazis and KKK did their murderous thuggery in Charlottsville. Some on this website have tried to claim that the guilty parties were only a minority, or that the left were just as bad, agreeing with Trump. The rally was called, Unite the Right. Says it all.

Posted - August 21, 2017
Tags : Trump Zeitgeist Racist Racialist Morons

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  • 1233
    There was a full spectrum of opinion there. Why wouldn't there be? 

    Your question makes no sense. If the rally were called "Nazis Unite" it might be reasonable to think that only nazis would turn up.

    It appealed for the right to unite and that is wide spectrum of opinion.

    Just because someone wants to protest the destruction of confederate historical sites, doesn't make them a nazi.
      August 21, 2017 11:02 AM MDT
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  • 2500
    What murderous thuggery are you babbling about?

    I've finally had a chance to look at some of the UNEDITED video footage from the single incident where one person had the misfortune of being struck by a motor vehicle and mortally injured. I saw the "counter-protesters", the "lefties", pelting the vehicle with a variety of detritus and actually pounding on the vehicle with fists. I even saw what appeared to be a baseball bat being wielded against the vehicle by one of the "peaceful" counter-protesters. My guess is at this point that the driver became confused, wanted to get the H out of there and blindly 'gunned" the engine. (Have you ever driven in C-ville? You gotta be damn careful about pedestrians, even on a good day when the streets are generally clear.)

    Yes, the driver is still responsible for what happened, but he may not have been the vicious thug that "the media" has painted him to be.

    One other thing I noticed from the actual news coverage . . . If that had happened to one of my kids my wife would be inconsolable, maybe for the rest of her life. But this "victim's mother was almost gleeful that her daughter had been "sacrificed" for "the cause" . . . Weird, huh?
      August 21, 2017 11:48 AM MDT
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  • 34440
    I have not but them on the same moral ground. Personally I think the Nazis, Kkk etc are more disgusting than  Antifa....but all are disgusting  and all are my enemies. 
    The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend.  
      August 21, 2017 12:57 PM MDT
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  • 739
    The Unite the Right protest was organised by Jason Kessler, the founder of a group calling itself Unity and Security for America, and claimed he was trying to do a pro-white demonstration. Given that, I would say one could only expect neo-Nazi groups and the KKK to show up. Anyone who is right-wing, conservative, or whatever the hell you want to call it, but not a racialist, would have been better advised to stay away. Eye witness accounts state that the right were the ones swinging clubs and looking for violence, and any violence by the left was purely in self-defence. Also, I do not call an event where militias turn up armed to the teeth with guns a peaceful demonstration. Yeah, I know. In idiot America, they have the constitutional "right" to bear arms, and they were only exercising that. Whatever.
    https://uk.businessinsider.com/who-is-jason-kessler-unite-the-right-charlottesville-2017-8
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/charlottesville-violence-right-left-trump
    Read this comment from Marcus Cicero, a blogger from a group calling itself Occidental Dissent. “Now, to begin Saturday’s rally, the League of the South assembled at an area only a few blocks from Lee Park – I myself was one of the shield men. As we advanced down the street toward the park, I immediately noticed a horde of Antifa, BLM terrorists, and other assorted genetic refuse ready and willing to block the street leading up to our destination.” Genetic refuse? Is that any way to refer to any human being?

    This post was edited by HarryDemon at August 25, 2017 9:08 AM MDT
      August 25, 2017 9:06 AM MDT
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  • 1233
    It's not true. Everything is a spectrum. Most of those there were just history buffs who wanted to protest the destruction of history.

    Just being "pro-white" is not the same as being a white supremacist. A lot of people have responded to the anti white racism in society (which is considerable) by getting racially defensive. There are many racial identity groups among minorities and that is seen as no big deal. Though anyone who seems invested in "whiteness" is considered complete neo nazi scum. This is typical of the hypocrisy the left. Personally race means nothing to me. I put my identity into ideas, not race. Though I'm not going to demonize those that have some racial identity. 

    Also most white supremacists (or black supremacists, Hispanic supremacists etc etc) are not hateful. They're snobs who think they're superior. Their ideas are arrogant, not hateful.

    Only a small minority of racial identity groups are actually hateful and commit acts of violence. This post was edited by Zeitgeist at September 2, 2017 3:09 PM MDT
      August 25, 2017 1:38 PM MDT
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  • 739
    Really? Can you give me an example of a racial identity group that is not hateful? I think you are mistaking racial identity groups with cultural identity groups. There are many groups concerned with a particular cultural identity, and hatred is not part of their agenda, but that is a separate matter to race. A racial identity group, by definition, is claiming that a particular race is special because of a few minor genetic differences in its DNA. There is no scientific basis for the idea of genetic superiority. Whatever one possesses in ones gene pool gives one a proclivity to certain traits, but nurture plays a part, as well as nature.
    You say "Most of those there were just history buffs who wanted to protest the destruction of history." It was a statue that was being destroyed, not history. As I understand it, these statues were put up in the 1920's, as the Ku Klux Klan were experiencing an upsurge in popularity, with the purpose of intimidating black people, and Robert E. Lee himself was opposed to memorials to the Confederacy. In any case they will have to take the statue down now, or it will look like they are giving in to the white supremacists. Last point: I doubt if most of these "history buffs" would be well acquainted with history. Neither you nor I were there, and the accounts I have read vary according to the political bias of those giving them, but I know the difference between a "let's shout louder than the other guy" type, and a history buff.
      August 30, 2017 9:38 AM MDT
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