An old war hero is dying of brain cancer. He served his country honorably. Do you think he is a fitting target for political venom? Why?

Is the reason you would not vote for him because he fought Obamacare, he voted for Obamacare or is it simply because he changed his mind?

I don't like flipp flopping. 
Especially when you flip away from me.

Your great white hope flipflops 24/7 m2c. You can't be serious. You embrace every flip he flops and defend it and yet here you are piling on to a war hero's experience? Oh my god. You are way off the scale. I guess I don't know you at all. That you could say that shocks me. :( Disappoints me. Changes what I think about you totally.

Again, we are talking about results...votes, etc.

Trump has not passed anything I disagree with (with the exception of the last budget---I was not happy with it).  All the rest is a distraction.
Now if he vetoes and tax reform bill or a repeal/replace OC, or fails to will a wall after Congress funds it or appoints a Liberal to Supreme Court, etc...then Yes I will be complaining.

He didn't vote to keep Obamacare, he voted against the plan that would replace it.  There is a difference, you know.

No, McCain's  deciding vote was on the "Skinny Repeal"...it was not replacing anything.

It was doing 3 simple things, that every Republican including McCain has campaigned for nearly a decade.

1. Repeal the individual mandate
2. Repeal the employer mandate
3. Repeal the medical device tax

John McCain flip flopped again. He is a Rhino and has been for a long time that is why he did not win in 2008.

In substance, this plan would repeal just three parts of the ACA, according to several sources familiar with the approach. It would eliminate the requirement that most Americans carry health insurance as well as the requirement that employers with at least 50 full-time employees offer coverage to their workers. Both are central elements of the 2010 health-care law and its least popular aspects with the public.

The “skinny” plan also would rescind the tax on medical devices, one of several taxes the ACA created to help pay for other elements of the law.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/07/25/skinny-repeal-could-be-the-senates-health-care-bill-of-last-resort/

I have some cognitive dissonance regarding respect and disrespect at the moment that perhaps you can help me with since you know as a moderator I seem to have some trouble with that.

The word "respect" comes from the Latin word specio, meaning to look.  When you add the Latin prefix re, it means to look back---sort of like a Monday morning quarterback who sees all the additional information that the coach did not or was not able to take into account when he called the play that, in retrospect, was a terrible call.

So now, because we see that the coach made a call unjustified by the actually reality that existed at the time, we no longer admire or esteem what we now see to be an serious error on the coach's part.

So how do I tell the coach he made a really bad call because he missed some things that he should have understood or been aware of--- without being accused of being disrespectful.

So how do I reply to you, Coach?

Generally, when discussing a topic....discuss the topic not about other users, including user whom you are talking with.
If you feel I have crossed a line somewhere, please feel free to hit the Report button under my post. I will directly to JA.

Judgment calls by nature are correct. It doesn't address whether they are right.  I won't challenge the referee on the field, but if he makes the game to uninteresting, I'll find another.

But just for clarification, when you call McCain a "rhino," do you mean an "odd-toed ungulate" or a "RINO?"---(Republican In Name Only)

It depends on what dog you have in what fight. Some admire McCain for what he did. Dying of brain cancer as he is he flew back to D.C. to cast a vote that was very important to him. I decry those who vilify him for doing so. Shame on them for putting partisan politics above human compassion. These are phony Christians. They defile the name and should be ashamed. In my opinion. Thank you for your reply Master C and Happy Thursday to thee! :)

Rosie, I have no dog in the fight, I'm not American. I do not know where you got the 'phony Christians' from but the inability to to make decisions outside their ancient book of myths and fairy tales is indoctrinated into the religious from day one, so when one actually listens to facts and changes their thinking it is nothing short of 'miraculous'. So if you think of it, any hard line politician and any fundamental religious loon have a lot in common, if you get a fundamental religious person sharing the same brain as a hard line politician, then you really have problems.

We Americans really have problems Master C. The whole world knows it. Only a tiny few in America percentagewise still believe we are the best the brightest the smartest the most talented. Of course their view is very limited since they are looking through very narrow politically partisan presrciption glasses while wearing blinders. Thank you for your thoughtful reply and Happy Friday to thee! :)

In one of the Stephen Segal movies, his character was described by another in the film as "a guy who would drink a gallon of gasoline just so he could p*ss on you if you were on fire."