The earth in its present iteration is going to he**due to its political perversions. The sky/sea are infinitely niftier. Agree/dis/why?

There is life down there Durdle. 7 miles down..no light at all. Yet life exists. You don't think that is mysterious? James  Cameron went down almost the full 7 miles and stayed down there I believe for several hours. Being able to build a vehicle/bathysphere to withstand the enormous pressure..send someone down to see what's there and  bring him back safely I think is an extraordinary achievement. You don't find that  amazing? You have a problem with my use of the word "earth". How about world? The world consists of human beings whose political perversions assuredly have not been good for humankind. I think "earth" and "world" are interchangeable. You don't. That's normal. We spar over semantics. That is understandable. Thank you for your reply. I disagree with you but as a friend once told me "reasonable people can disagree". I believe we are both reasonable. Don't you? :)

Very true. As you know, the earth as a planet will be here forever, but the world of wicked people will be destroyed if they don't turn to doing good.
(1 John 2:15-17) Do not love either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; 16 because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. 17 Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever.
(2 Peter 2:5-9) And he did not refrain from punishing an ancient world, but kept Noah, a preacher of righteousness, safe with seven others when he brought a flood upon a world of ungodly people. 6 And by reducing the cities of Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah to ashes, he condemned them, setting a pattern for ungodly people of things to come. 7 And he rescued righteous Lot, who was greatly distressed by the brazen conduct of the lawless people— 8 for day after day that righteous man was tormenting his righteous soul over the lawless deeds that he saw and heard while dwelling among them. 9 So, then, Jehovah knows how to rescue people of godly devotion out of trial, but to reserve unrighteous people to be destroyed on the day of judgment,

(Psalm 37:10, 11) Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. 11 But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
(Psalm 37:29) The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.

You religious types are so gloomy!  I feel you almost revel in being a bunch of gloomy fellow-pessimists who rather hope the doom-laden meanderings of a few Late Bronze Age to Roman Era, Hebrew scribes and sayers of sooths can yet be made to fit some unspecifiable disaster yet to befall us at some unspecifiable time hence, to "prove" your belief in them!

However, as Rosie suggests in her OP explanation - whether you believe it was created by some supernatural ego or not -  the Universe is far greater and more wonderful than humanity; and the more we learn of it, the greater and more wonderful it becomes.

Geologically and cosmologically, human existence is insignificant (environmental effects on Earth apart) and short-term, but for reasons perhaps beyond our own understanding, we are our own worst enemies, fighting each other for shallow political, religious, territorial or merely greed reasons. Collectively we are making a right mess of things and damaging our natural home in the process, but the world as a whole will survive, albeit battered and bruised, even if we wipe ourselves out before our natural time as a species is up. 

Sorry, wasn't really trying to come off as gloomy. 
I don't 'revel in being a bunch of gloomy fellow-pessimists' but neither can I escape the reality of how many people are today. All I can do is try not to get involved in the fighting over religions, territorial and greed so prevalent in today's world.

Surely you don't consider righteous people living peaceable to be gloomy?

I find this to be a bit gloomy:
"Geologically and cosmologically, human existence is insignificant (environmental effects on Earth apart) and short-term, but for reasons perhaps beyond our own understanding, we are our own worst enemies, fighting each other for shallow political, religious, territorial or merely greed reasons. Collectively we are making a right mess of things and damaging our natural home in the process, but the world as a whole will survive, albeit battered and bruised, even if we wipe ourselves out before our natural time as a species is up."

I am glad you are not as pessimistic as your earlier posts suggest!

I differentiate between "wiping ourselves out" by our own actions, and the end of our species naturally, by evolution - which would not normally be for another couple of million years yet by comparison with other life as a guide. We would not be able to avoid the latter, but we can and should do something to stop any sort of self-destruction.

Of course not everyone is fighting each other, far from it, but unfortunately those who are, drag their fellow-citizens into the mess and all too often, ruin their own countries. 

Humanity does face enormous problems with very difficult solutions that cannot possibly satisfy everyone, but I am afraid past societies' religious beliefs will not solve anything. They may comfort their followers, but that's all.

I am not sure what you mean by "righteous". It has overtones of self-righteousness, or of claiming a monopoly on "right", based merely on copying an ancient tribe's beliefs, which I'm sure you do not intend. It is not necessary to believe in gods of any sort to live peaceably! Indeed, ironically, such beliefs have always been one of the causes of, or excuses for, bitterness and strife from family to national levels, because the bully either puts the responsibility onto his or her god, or claims defending that god and religion - a god perfectly capable of looking after itself while leaving humans to heir own fate.  

Rather, it can only be humanity that sorts itself out. God won't, whether he, she or it exists. We would not wipe ourselves out completely, but to avoid bringing disaster on ourselves collectively, the whole world of people will have to agree how to do so.

I still don't see what was so gloomy in my post?

I also don't see how righteous people living peaceably has overtones of self-righteousness? Anyone can choose not to participate in war and such, often caused by ethnic hatred, national hatred, religious hatred, political hatred or other perceived differences. Would you consider Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Mao Zedong and the people that supported their murderous rampages as righteous people living peaceable? If not, are you being self righteous? 

I really don't understand how you have a problem with righteous people living peaceable? 

Are you talkin' end of days again there Tex?

Do you really care?
Do you have an answer to the question?

Are you happy that the world is the way it is today? Trump haters saying nasty things to and about Trump supporters. Trump supporters saying nasty things to and about Trump haters. Do you consider things like the Las Vegas massacre, Columbine, Rwanda, Bosnia, the holocaust, and other atrocities to be just a normal part of humanity? 


What is your opinion and what has Shiva or Satya Sai Baba revealed to you? Do you still get revelations through your dreams?

Tex, regarding the video you posted. How amazing is This! What a testimony to Jehovah God's wisdom, power and love!! THANK YOU FOR THIS! This post was edited by Autumnleaves at October 6, 2017 2:09 AM MDT