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Let's hogtie Donald John Pardon-wise.Those he pardons become the subjects of FULL-BLOWN FEDERAL investigations.Think it could work?

All Congress has to do a create, vote on, pass a bill and override the certain VETO that Donald John would use. That'll learn him! That way folks will BEG HIM NOT TO PARDON THEM. And things will get back to normal. At least the pardon thing will get back to normal. Everything else still needs a lotta thought and work. Whatcha think?

Posted - August 30, 2017

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  • 6988
    Didn't someone say that he has only pardoned one person while O'Bama pardoned 2000?
      August 30, 2017 7:52 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Obama was prez for EIGHT YEARS. Doofus Donny hasn't been in power for even a year yet. How in the he** can you compare the two? Seriously bh? That is ridikkalus! SIGH. Thank you for your reply.
      August 31, 2017 1:12 AM MDT
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  • 35571
    Do we investigate all of the nearly 2000 pardons/commutations  Obama issued? Most were drug offenders many with firearms convictions  and other crimes.
      August 30, 2017 8:09 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    Baloney.  AGAIN. BAL LONE Y

    If they were drug offenders, I assume that you cannot tell the difference between what constitutes a drug offense.   There are offenses from having someone leave a pill in your car when you are stopped by a cop who sees it and nails you for it,  to someone selling drugs on the grade school playground.  So, don't come here saying he pardoned drug users.   What offenses? 

    Your GUY?

    He doesn't even want to prosecute anyone who HAS a gun.  Do not make me laugh. This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at August 30, 2017 11:34 PM MDT
      August 30, 2017 8:11 AM MDT
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  • 35571
    Nope, most were "possession with intent to distribute "....drug dealers.
    I have posted the link several times....look for yourself. 
      August 30, 2017 8:17 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    Why would Obama do that?  Tell me your reasoning before I look it up ONCE MORE and find the real facts.
      August 30, 2017 8:19 AM MDT
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  • 35571
    I cannot answer why....But I can show facts that he did. 
      August 30, 2017 8:27 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    That's okay.  I will look up FACTS, not your facts.
      August 30, 2017 8:58 AM MDT
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  • 35571
    It is the Federal government's facts..... www.justice.gov
      August 31, 2017 7:24 AM MDT
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  • 6988
    The media musta lied to everyone again. Gannett News said O'Bama pardoned various criminals, but mostly those with drug related convictions. 
      August 30, 2017 8:18 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    Yes.  I am shocked.
      August 30, 2017 8:20 AM MDT
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  • 35571
    No surprise here. 
      August 30, 2017 8:29 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Do you believe smoking marijuana should be a jailable offense bh? Many don't. I don't what you are taling vis a vis the media. Doofus Donny will pardon everyone who is a racist for sure just to shore up his base. He will pardon everyone of every crime because he can get away with it. He says he is the Law and Order prez. What bullsh**! Thank you for your reply.
      August 31, 2017 1:14 AM MDT
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  • 35571
    Most of the 1800+ offenders were not for pot. Cocaine was the most common followed by meth. 
      August 31, 2017 7:26 AM MDT
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  • 13269
    *OBAMA. It's not an Irish name. This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM MDT
      August 31, 2017 11:31 AM MDT
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  • 2500
    No, that won't work much as you'd like it to.

    The President's power to grant pardons is in the Constitution. All the President would have to do is issue blanket pardons as Ford did for Nixon. Any attempt for Congress to limit it beyond what the Constitution grants to the President would be unconstitutional. This post was edited by Salt and Red Pepper at August 31, 2017 7:26 AM MDT
      August 30, 2017 9:42 AM MDT
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  • 13269
    Sorry, but you can't just change the president's constitutional power every time you don't like how he/she uses it.
      August 30, 2017 11:37 PM MDT
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  • 6023
    "All Congress has to do a create, vote on, pass a bill and override the certain VETO that Donald John would use."

    Ratifying a change to the Constitution (which is what you would require to remove Presidential pardon authority) is FAR from that simple.

    The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention. The Congress proposes an amendment in the form of a joint resolution. Since the President does not have a constitutional role in the amendment process, the joint resolution does not go to the White House for signature or approval. The original document is forwarded directly to NARA's Office of the Federal Register (OFR) for processing and publication. The OFR adds legislative history notes to the joint resolution and publishes it in slip law format. The OFR also assembles an information package for the States which includes formal "red-line" copies of the joint resolution, copies of the joint resolution in slip law format, and the statutory procedure for ratification under 1 U.S.C. 106b.

    The Archivist submits the proposed amendment to the States for their consideration by sending a letter of notification to each Governor along with the informational material prepared by the OFR. The Governors then formally submit the amendment to their State legislatures or the state calls for a convention, depending on what Congress has specified. In the past, some State legislatures have not waited to receive official notice before taking action on a proposed amendment. When a State ratifies a proposed amendment, it sends the Archivist an original or certified copy of the State action, which is immediately conveyed to the Director of the Federal Register. The OFR examines ratification documents for facial legal sufficiency and an authenticating signature. If the documents are found to be in good order, the Director acknowledges receipt and maintains custody of them. The OFR retains these documents until an amendment is adopted or fails, and then transfers the records to the National Archives for preservation.

    A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.
      August 31, 2017 7:35 AM MDT
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