Discussion»Statements»Rosie's Corner» Those who dislikeTrump don't think much of those who do like. Isn't it a two-way street folks? Contemp/disdain flows on both sides?
Some people espouse all-or-none perspectives that don't allow for any deviations whatsoever. If and when someone assumes that voting for a particular candidate or belonging to a particular political party foretells everything there is to know about otjerother people, those assumptions carry the potential for mistaken ideas.
This post was edited by Randy D at June 24, 2018 6:39 AM MDT
For some, maybe. Some try to fully understand why the other side feels the way they do. No matter how strongly we feel, we can find something about Trump that appeals to someone else or something about him that turns people off. Few people have such rigid thinking that they can't open their minds to other possibilities. (At least that's what I hope - that would be a sad way to live).
I think that is incorrect m2c. You at least form an opinion about whom they are politically. You have an opinion of me because of my dislike for Trump. I have an opinion of you because of your loving him or liking him or believing he is wonderful. It is inescapable. My opinion of you does not include contempt/disdain because I know there is so much more to you that resonates with me. It is that m2c with whom I can relate. But if all people offer here (and some do) is their political opinion about Trump and they refuse to share anything else about themselves then they are 1-dimensional political partisans and I really have no way to relate to them. See what I mean? I would not invite any of then to dinner if all I could look forward to was bashing me for not liking Trump. There is nothing else there. That is all they are. Bashers. That would NOT hold my interest. I don't think I'm unique in that view. Do you? Thank you for your reply! :)
This post was edited by RosieG at October 16, 2017 6:03 AM MDT
I geuss again we have to disagree. I know many people who don't follow politics and don't know which party is supportive of which issue. And personally know people who have supported candidates who did not support what they supported. So no I don't form an opinion based on candidate support. I also know what the spin doctors can do to people. My daughter does not follow politics....and she has gotten to where instead of listening to the fake news and junk, she will just come ask me what is the deal with this and why are they saying that. And I give her both sides of the issue.
If they don't follow politics how can it matter m2c? People who support candidates who do not support their own best interests or views make no sense to me at all. It's like rooting for the enemy. Who does that? So your daughter comes to you and you give her both sides? Sure you're not learning a teensy bit on the Sean Hannity side and away from the Rachel Maddow side? If it works for your daughter fine. I personally like it that my son thinks for himself and is independent of me intellectually. No disrespect intended. How boring it would be if everyone thought the same, liked the same, hated the same, looked the same. Nothing to cause one to do any critical thinking. Perhaps that day will come one day or is very near. Hopefully I won't be here to see it. :(
The people who only vote in President elections...don't follow politics. I remember being young, I and my friends voted for Clinton....at the time my friends were pro-life (with exceptions), I was pro-choice (because I objected to the exceptions). None of us knew as a Dem Clinton was pro-choice.
I don't watch Hannity or Maddows...too extreme on both sides. I do occasionally watch when a new issue comes up to see what each is saying. I can explain the reasoning behind each side generally. As long as there is logic to it and not just fake news to rile/scare the base.
ie. MSNBC has been saying Trump is going blow up the world since before day 1. Before he had any issues with any other leaders. Fox just yesterday was going on about Thomas the Tank engine being liberalized and making a big deal out of gender....they were adding 2 new female engines.
Well sweetie I cannot argue with anything you've said although I do watch Rachel Maddow. I know you know that I vote in every election. Primaries too. I do research on candidates about whom I know nothing for local positions like judges or Board of Education members. It is very time-consuming but I'm not gonna vote blind. I check out their records as best I can. I don't automatically vote party but I do tend to vote more for Dems. Sometimes candidates have no political affiliation. That's when their records are vitally important to know about. Here's how I look at it. Citizens have an OBLIGATION to vote. There isn't that much asked of us. Pay our taxes that we owe. Stay within the law/follow the rules. Vote. Beyond that you're free and clear. Some so-called "citizens" don't do any of those things. I don't think they deserve being citizens. They don't value it or appreciate it. It is wasted on them! Thank you for your reply! :)
Well I try to be above contempt and disdain and understand that different people have different things that are important to them which would of course affect their political views. But honestly I can't recall so much hatred being heaped upon a president before - so much they take everything and bend it to fuel their hatred which just becomes blind. Some people seem so offended just by the idea of Trump! Which seems so extreme for someone so basically simple and understandable. I just view them as misguided and tying themselves in knots. After all - many of us who did not support Obama were able to have decent and productive and happy lives all the while he was in without such hatred and name-calling. So I have to think - why can't people who did not support Trump do the same while he is in?
Different strokes officegirl. We are all wired differently. We have different intellects/experiences/conditioning/education. Some of us are brainwashed from the day we're born about whites being superior to all others. Some of us see a prez who is wonderful. Some of us see one who is possibly treasonous/traitorous/racist. We react to what we perceive and what we perceive is based upon a complicated set of conditions. You cannot be anyone but you. I cannot be anyone but me. You may disagree with my view and I with yours but I would never dream of silencing you. You have a right to state your opinion. I have the same right. That's my opinion. Thank you for your reply and Happy Tuesday. We are all shaped by our limitations/strengths. We cannot escape them. We are victims of them. And so it goes. My opinion of course. I only ever speak for me. :)
This post was edited by Randy D at June 24, 2018 6:39 AM MDT
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