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Pres Bush already passed border law in 2006. Why can't Congress and Trump just fund it and build the wall?

“reinforced fencing, the installation of additional physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors”  
Secure Fence Act of 2006

Posted - January 13, 2018

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  • 19942
    Thee are a lot more important places to use those billions of dollars.  This country's roads, bridges and tunnels are crumbling. 
      January 13, 2018 9:31 AM MST
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  • 32529
    Do you believe they will take the wall money and use it for roads etc? I don't.  
    Also 21Bill is cheap compared to the annual cost of illegals ($50B). It will also stimulate the economies of those border states.
      January 13, 2018 1:31 PM MST
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  • 19942
    No, but according to Trump, Mexico is going to pay for the wall, so we need not worry about that, right?  One thing you surely understand is that wall or no wall, the human traffickers and the cartels will figure out a way to get their drugs over the border because there are places where there can be no wall.  There is far too much money for them not to do this.
      January 13, 2018 2:23 PM MST
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  • 32529
    I don't care who pays....if we can put fees on money sent to Mex to recupe some of the money great, if no (some judge rules not allowed)..then fine we will pay it.
      January 14, 2018 8:40 AM MST
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  • 19942
    You're comparing apples and oranges.  What does who pays for the wall have to do with sending money to Mexico?  Nothing.
      January 14, 2018 10:11 AM MST
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  • 32529
    It is a tax or fee that was mentioned as a way to collect money to pay for the wall. Money that would otherwise be leaving the country. 
      January 14, 2018 2:43 PM MST
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  • 19942
    If that's a way to raise money, why not tax anyone who sends money to any other country - not just Mexicans.
      January 15, 2018 12:52 AM MST
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  • 32529
    I am completely fine with that too. It was mentioned towards Mex because it would be at the Mex border. 
      January 15, 2018 5:10 AM MST
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  • 19942
    Well, since Mexico is going to pay for the wall, we don't need to tax them.
      January 15, 2018 8:24 AM MST
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  • 32529
    That is how we get Mex to pay for the wall....no one believes Mex will voluntarily pay for the wall. 
      January 15, 2018 10:22 AM MST
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  • 17364
    Because that is not a career-making, election-winning, political-banter-inducing move.  
      January 14, 2018 12:32 AM MST
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  • 32529
    Probably right.
      January 14, 2018 8:33 AM MST
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  • 7280
    I wasn't aware that the president had the authority to "pass" legislation.  I assume you mean he signed what Congress passed.

    The bill was amended in 2007.

    From Wikipedia.

    The original 2006 act provided for "at least two layers of reinforced fencing" to be built. However, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) successfully argued to Congress that "that different border terrains required different types of fencing, that a one-size-fits-all approach across the entire border didn't make sense."[5] An amendment introduced by Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican of Texas, was passed, amending the law to read: "nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location."
    A report in May 2008 by the Congressional Research Service found "strong indication" that illegal border-crossers had simply found new routes. The fence is routinely climbed or otherwise circumvented.[8]

    The GAO reported in 2017 that both pedestrian and vehicle barriers have been defeated by various methods, including using ramps to drive vehicles "up and over" vehicle fencing in the sector; scaling, jumping over, or breaching pedestrian fencing; burrowing or tunneling underground; and even using small aircraft.[16]

    New York Times op-ed writer Lawrence Downes wrote in 2013: "A climber with a rope can hop it in less than half a minute. ... Smugglers with jackhammers tunnel under it. They throw drugs and rocks over it. The fence is breached not just by sunlight and shadows, but also the hooded gaze of drug-cartel lookouts, and by bullets.

    Fencing built under the 2006 Secure Fence Act caused habitat fragmentation that adversely affected wildlife, including endangered wildlife.

    A 2011 study published in the peer-reviewed journal Diversity and Distributions determined that the habitat fragmentation determined that "small range size is associated with a higher risk of extinction, and for some species, the barriers reduce range by as much as 75%."

    Trump and his supporters seem to want what they want, with little consideration for the consequences.

      January 15, 2018 10:43 AM MST
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  • 46117
    Yeah.  WHY NOT?

    I am surprised it TOOK you so long to ask.

    Like HEALTH INSURANCE, lady, and all the other scandals that he has caused and has not overcome, with all the time twittering his life away, he is learning that just saying something, does NOT make it happen.  Like Health Insurance, nobody knew (meaning IDIOT TRUMP) how hard this stuff is.  He will not build anything useful.  He will build some very expensive baloney type edifice and pass it off as something REALLY GREAT FOR EVERYONE.  

    You have to have a plan besides making Mexico pay and lying about it.  

    There is NO wall.  There is pretend talk.  No one knows what he wants from one day to the next.  He is a sham and a shill.  He has no record of any successful business he has started, he went to a business school that was considered the lowest on the rung of schools that people who wanted to get an Ivy League education could enter.  Anyone who was in an actual university at the time considered Trump's alma matter as less than acceptable and a down and dirty place to get a questionable education.  That is where Trump hails from.

    My point, he doesn't even know how to conduct a sane real estate operation.  Mark Cuban thinks he is despicable and does not practice any honorable real estate prowess.  He leaves his backers broke and angry.  That is not a good business man.  He is a liar.  Again, not trustworthy.


    Now he is going to build a BERLIN WALL. Because let's face it, that is what it symbolizes.  Keep the enemy out, but also keep fear and worry alive so we keep ourselves hidden inside a wall of lies.

    WAKE UP PLEASE.  You are on the wrong side. This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at January 15, 2018 10:54 AM MST
      January 15, 2018 10:52 AM MST
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