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RosieG

Where is the line between sharing views and being lectured to*? Do you lecture or conjecture?

*Dangling preposition. So shoot me! :)

Posted - April 24, 2018
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  • 2706
    Who am I to lecture anyone. I don't like to engage in conjecture. I'd rather do the research to find out what the facts are.
      April 24, 2018 9:52 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    That makes no sense to me. That means you have no creative or imaginative reservoir to tap. You are limited to FACTS. Why would you so limit yourself when the whole world is out there begging for you to use some imagination and creativity? Different strokes. Thank you for your reply ru and Happy Tuesday to you.
      April 24, 2018 10:44 AM MDT
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  • 10880

    Oh, I have to lecture here.  One should never end a sentence with a preposition.  To do so is improper grammar.  Therefore, you should rewrite your sentence so that the noun is preceding the …

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    The above example is a lecture.  While the overall intent may be to help the other person, the speaker has turned it into a lecture (nag, nag, nag).   The lecturer is closed-minded.  He only wants to force his “knowledge” onto another.  Could he be wrong?  Is it ever proper to end a sentence with a preposition?  (the answer is yes)

    Sharing views means being open minded. Open to the possibility that one (or both) parties may be correct... or incorrect.  Sharing isn’t forceful. 

    Which word sounds friendlier to you – ‘sharing’ or ‘lecturing’?  Sharing is open (2 (or more) ways).  Lecturing is closed (1 way).

    Telling others your views and ideas isn’t lecturing.  It becomes lecturing when you force those views and ideas onto them.   Many arguments ensue when people stop sharing and begin lecturing.    The line between the two is ‘force’.  Sharing isn’t forceful, lecturing is.

      April 24, 2018 10:42 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Thank you for your thoughtful reply Shuhak. I don't take at all well to being lectured. I'm 80. I've been around the barn a few times. I KNOW a lotta stuff. Not because I'm brilliant but because I'm old. That is one of the benefits of being old. You KNOW a lot more stuff than you did when you were young. Unless you are comatose or incurious in which case you are hopeless.
      April 24, 2018 10:47 AM MDT
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  • 10880
    Not old .... mature. 
      April 24, 2018 2:26 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Mature? I'm not so sure. Are you m'dear? I'm gonna ask. Thank you for your reply! :)
      April 25, 2018 3:56 AM MDT
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  • 10880
    I guess it depends on how one defines "mature".  Am I physically 'full grown'?  Yes... well, most of me.  For some reason my stomach seems to want to keep growing.  Am I a "grown up" - heck no!  I refuse to grow up! (na, na, na-na... you can't make me).
    Unfortunately, our society considers anyone over 50 to be "old".  And as each generation reaches societies "old" marker they push back (who you callin' old, sonny?!), as few people like being called "old".
      April 25, 2018 10:02 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    I remember when I was sixteen how old 40 seemed to me to be. It was very far away. As I grew closer to that age my idea of "old" moved. At one point 60 was old, then 70 and now that I'm 80 well 90 is old. I refer to myself as old but honestly I don't feel it at all inside.  I remember my mom telling me that at her age(she was in her 40's) she still felt 16 inside. I thought she was lying. She wasn't! It's true. It's not how old you are but how young/old you feel that matters. Sure. More aches and pains but all things considered they're minimally intrusive and are not there 24/7.  In-between I am the person I have always been. That doesn't change no matter how the packaging appears to change to others. That is a wondrous thing to learn and you really can't take anyone's word for it. Thank you for your thoughtful reply Shuhak and Happy Thursday! :)
      April 26, 2018 6:02 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    If what I say is correct and it is unable to be reconciled with your "view," then what I have said functions as a lecture----possibly to be disregarded, but at your peril.

    And since you acknowledged that while your use of "to" in your question is grammatically questionable and still chose to use that construction, a lecture would be inappropriate---although it might please the lecturer anyway.

    "Sharing" involves relating one's experiences, needs, ideas, etc.---and much like "art" proceeds from the unique view of the artist and is "displayed" for the pleasure of those interested.

    A lecture is seldom a closed and forceful pronouncement---with the possible exception of a parent telling their toddler to never play with knives again..

    The types of lectures vary---Some lectures provide an overview of material, some add supplementary background information, and some provoke further thinking on the topic.

    And some lectures are necessary to correct simple errors---if someone actually thinks that 2 + 2 = 5, the universe begs that he be corrected.

    My answers sometimes contain all of the above and for the various purposes mentioned.

    But as CS Lewis said, "When we try to make what we say work out to edifying conclusions, we offer to the God of all truth the unclean sacrifice of a lie."

    So do what you will with what I post---like the Easter Bunny, I don't keep track of what happens to my eggs after I hide them.
      April 24, 2018 12:30 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    AS I don't keep track of my questions once I ask them unless someone responds in which case I am bound to remember it and possibly have a worthwhile conversation. I ask and move on. Too many to ask to keep track of the past. They are mine alone until I release them and then I have no connection with them. They belong to the galaxy. Boy that sounds pompous as he** but I couldn't resist. AS for lectures if you are student to be lectured to is your choice right? You expect to hear lectures about whatever subject you have elected to take. Hopefully conversations arise from them and you learn more about whatever it is. But when it is NOT your choice and someone is "lecturing" you about what you should/should not do? That is seriously arrogant, pompous and easily tuned out. Requesting advice is one thing. Being bombarded with it? Not my cuppa tea. I accept whatever makes sense to me and reject that which doesn't. I expect everyone does the same and the reason we disagree is that what makes to you may not make any sense to me. That doesn't mean whatever it is doesn't make sense of course. It simply means as I comprehend it whatever is said may come across as nonsensical gibberish. Whose fault is that? I can't help having the limitations I have right? Same for  you. So we deal with others as best we can even if sometimes everything they say is nonsensical gibberish. Currently and most recently it is best exemplified by occupants of D.C. I needn't go into any detail. Thank you for your reply tom and Happy Wednesday to thee. This post was edited by RosieG at April 25, 2018 4:06 AM MDT
      April 25, 2018 4:06 AM MDT
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