Discussion»Statements»Rosie's Corner» When people SWEAR BY NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION and then are told so what if there was? Does it bother them?
Why do you need to hear it over and over and over again only to hear the retraction?
And it bothers me that it doesn't bother you.
How President Trump's Defense Went From 'No Collusion' With Russia to 'Collusion Is Not a Crime' Mute Current Time 0:00 / Duration Time 0:15
× By Alana Abramson Updated: July 31, 2018 10:46 AM ET | Originally published: July 30, 2018
The first time that Donald Trump argued about collusion, it was to claim that his political opponents were doing it. Then, it was to argue that he had not done it. Now his attorney is arguing that it’s not even a crime.
But legal experts say that the entire discussion around collusion has been beside the point.
“It’s not whether it’s the crime of collusion it’s whether they engaged in the act of collusion in furtherance of actual criminal behavior,” said Bradley Moss, an attorney in Washington D.C. who specializes in national security issues.
Peter Zeidenberg, who was deputy special counsel in the Scooter Libby case and worked with Special Counsel Robert Mueller at the Justice Department, explained that while the legal code doesn’t strictly define collusion, that doesn’t mean acts of collusion are not criminal.
“Literally that’s true: there is no crime of collusion. But I don’t know how you collude with Russia without conspiring to do so and I think it’s pretty clear that Mueller believes conspiracy with those working to interfere with the election is a crime. It’s a crime of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States,” said Zeidenberg. “What [Giuliani’s] saying is you can collude but there’s not a crime and I think that’s not really true. I think they’re constantly trying to move the goalpost.”
Trump has used the ambiguity around the term collusion to defend himself as part of a broader campaign to muddy the waters around investigations into any ties his campaign had with Russians who were meddling in the 2016 election. With his former campaign head, Paul Manafort, facing a trial this week on bank fraud and tax charges stemming from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, Trump has stepped up his attacks on the probe.
In the past, Trump has used the ambiguity around “collusion” to attack his opponents.
This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at August 1, 2018 11:10 AM MDT
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