Discussion»Questions»Life and Society» How is it that the people who celebrate Columbus 'discovering' America and oppose the idea of renaming the holiday to
POTUS has failed to mention the original Americans both years since being elected. My encounters with his supporters have indicated that they share his sentiments on the subject.
Since 1992, numerous states, counties, and municipalities have resolved to observe Indigenous Peoples Day in lieu of or in addition to Columbus Day. The following link shows the rather extensive list:
So it's been happening without much opposition since George HW Bush was president - long before Mr. Trump came along. It doesn't change the reality and makes zero difference that he didn't mention it in some speech. Thus, I don't get the whole point of your question other than, perhaps, to seek or create some superfluous controversy and make a mountain from a molehill.
This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at October 26, 2018 1:58 PM MDT
You're not required to answer questions that you don't get or feel are superfluous or controversial, Stu. Isn't it exhausting to be contrary so often?
Only a few states have elected to change the name of the day, or not celebrate it at all. It has been a federal holiday since 1934, and is still a federal holiday.
In my experiences, Trump supporters either refuse to acknowledge the reality of what colonization did to the IP of the Americas, or admit that they don't care. Your experiences may be different.
At the risk of being contrarian again, which is something I enjoy when I detect BS, isn't it exhausting to look for conflict and controversy where there's not all that much of it and when there are larger issues to be concerned with? Dozens of states, counties, cities, towns, villages, colleges, and universities have recognized Indigenous Peoples Day during the administrations of four different presidents, plenty of folks know about it, and there is no significant opposition to it. Who really cares what some narrow-minded Trump supporters think? And "in your experiences" or anyone else's, how many people are we talking about? Five or maybe 10?
Anyway, issues such as the economy, foreign relations, international trade, the opioid epidemic, violence, and the proliferation of guns and other weapons are all quite a bit more important and worthy of attention than calling a holiday one name or another. This really is a rather insignificant issue, and getting worked up about it won't change how or what some people think.
You're not alone in your enjoyment of contrarianism. Nor are you alone in your attempts to belittle the beliefs or opinions of others by calling them BS.
If it were only the name of the day, I'd agree that it's not that significant. What was done and continues to be done to the native people of this country isn't insignificant. Is genocide only significant if it involves your own ancestors?
I don't always equate having thoughts to "getting worked up", though sometimes it does happen. Thankfully, I'm often capable of thinking without getting worked up. Give it a try, sometime. It'll lower your blood pressure. :)
With a recent reading Thursday of 125/79, my blood pressure is fine, thank you very much.
What is being done to native Americans today is nothing compared to what happened in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. Not sure what you're thinking in drawing a connection between the present and the past. Genocide is no longer part of the picture and, unfortunately, the past cannot be changed. You want to pay some sort of reparations and have your taxes raised for the purpose? Or maybe you prefer to keep up your hand-wringing, which solves approximately nothing.
We go way back to the Pleistocene Epoch of Answerbag! And calling me obstinate is such a lovely compliment, lol. Did you know that AB has a new site?
This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at October 27, 2018 11:08 PM MDT
I hope no one reports you for saying he's obstinate. It might be taken as an insult.
Over the years, I've learned some great life lessons. One is that nothing displeases certain kinds of people more than refusing to continue to argue with them.
Not true for me and maybe for others too! I have always liked Columbus Day, especially the sales:) But"Indigenous People's Day" has got to be the most boring stupid name I have ever heard! And is meaningless for most people. Shooting at innocent people trying to seek asylum is unforgivable! "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"
This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at October 27, 2018 8:28 AM MDT
WTF did you learn? Columbus explored the Caribbean, Central America, and South America. He was from Spain and had zero, zilch, and nada to do with Plymouth Rock and Thanksgiving. It was William Bradford and the Mayflower Pilgrims from England who landed there in 1620 and founded Plymouth Colony.
This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at October 27, 2018 10:36 PM MDT
You guys gotta see the MOVIE. It's really good. Chris C. was a loser bastard. This whole land was founded on ambition and might over any type of "right".
Lol! Did you really think I was suggesting that Columbus was connected to the Pilgrims? I was asking if you learned the truth about both Columbus and the Pilgrims in school, or the BS, sanitized version that school children are still being taught in many schools today.
You forgot to mention that Columbus was Italian, which explains why many Italian-Americans oppose the abolition of Columbus Day and why Trumpty-Dumpty talks about them, rather than Indigenous people on that day.
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