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Fans of conspiracy theorites are EASY MARKS. They WANT to believe them. What about those who aren't fans? Can they be conned/duped too?

Posted - February 24, 2019

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  • 46117
    Every second.  

    It is everywhere.  That is what the physical is.  A bunch of noise.  If you are not aware CONSTANTLY that you need evidence of something to adopt it into your psyche, you will probably, on some level pick up some subliminal message about it.

    That is why elections and this election process has to eventually fail.   We are just going on whim and whimsey most times.

    I admit I knew nothing about Bernie Sanders before Trump came on the scene.  I thought he was some old guy who had nothing new to say.  That is what I picked up in my mind.  I came to this stupid observation this way:

    I did not care.   We had just had Obama and I thought the Dems had it in the bag to keep going so why do we need Bernie Sanders and his out-there diatribe?  That is what I thought I knew at that time.  Picking up on my subliminal observations that he looked old and boring.

    I thought Hillary was a very viable candidate and would wipe Trump off the map.

    DONE.

    But what I have since learned is that I would back Bernie and what he stands for much more seriously than I would the Clintons.

    So, no matter what, our subliminal messages are deadly if we continue to ignore them.  If we accept and ignore finding out whether it is healthy to accept them.  Do not accept evidence unless you have confirmation.


    I wonder if we are ready for a progressive in the White House?   I wonder.   I think we are. This nation gets REAL tired of leaders that piss us off.  That is why Obama made it in the first place.  PRAY TO GOD I AM RIGHT. This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at February 25, 2019 1:48 AM MST
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  • 13277
    Who's "we?" How many people do you presume to speak for?
      February 24, 2019 4:39 PM MST
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  • 113301
    I believe it is going to be  fight to the death of progressive and fASCISTS. That may sound stern but the world is listing right..hard right. Where there are "elections" the despot dictators right-wing Fascist authoritarians win.  A cancerous communicable disease that has spread so fast it is dizzying.  The number of people who WANT ADORE EMBRACE LOVE the US  liar traitor weasel is staggering. In the Dem politiacal party Liberals are speaking up speaking strong speaking loud speaking constantly consistently. Mostly women. Mostly people of color. Their number is growing and maybe eventually their will will be done.  But for now?  That anyone STILL WANTS little donny dingbat to represent control crush Russianize America does not seem to be dwindling. It doesn't seem to be growing either. But think about. Millions and millions and millions of them everywhere anywhere WANTING PRAYING for him? In what kind of adverse universe can that be possible? I think violence is inevitable. That white nationalist who stockpiled arms to take out a lot of people was caught before he could execute his plan. How many don-adoring worshippers are stockpiling arms for the day they are waiting for when they go out and take out all those whom don deems are his enemies? So every day we await the BIG ONE. Thank you for your thoughtful reply and Happy Monday!  :)
      February 25, 2019 2:04 AM MST
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  • 1305
    I don't believe they are easy marks, many conspiracy theories have turned out to be true, I've listed some below, hence my opinion of them has changed, conspiracy theorists do not follow herd mentality for fear of being ridiculed, they think for themselves, yes some are nuts, but many are not.

    1) “Project Sunshine." In the wake of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the U.S. government commenced a major study to measure the effects of nuclear fallout on the human body.

    Conspiracy - The Government were stealing dead bodies to do radio active testing.

    The Truth - The government was stealing parts of dead bodies. Because they needed young tissue, they recruited a worldwide network of agents to find recently deceased babies and children, and then take samples and even limbs—each collected without notification or permission of the more than 1,500 grieving families.

    2) Poisoned alcohol

    Conspiracy - During Prohibition, the government poisoned alcohol to keep people from drinking.

    Truth - Manufacturers of industrial alcohol had been mixing their product with dangerous chemicals for years prior to Prohibition. But between 1926 and 1933, the federal government pushed manufacturers to use stronger poisons to discourage bootleggers from turning the alcohol into moonshine. That didn’t stop the bootleggers or their customers, and by the end of Prohibition, more than 10,000 Americans had been killed by tainted booze.

    3) The first lady who run the country.

    Conspiracy - A stroke rendered President Woodrow Wilson incapable of governing, and his wife surreptitiously stepped in.

    Truth - Wilson did suffer a debilitating stroke towards the end of his presidency—but the government felt it was in the country’s best interest to keep things quiet. The public didn’t learn about the stroke for months, during which time his wife, Edith Wilson, was making most executive decisions. Despite Mrs. Wilson claiming that she acted only as a “steward,” historians who have analysed the Wilson term in office confirm that for well over a year, Mrs. Wilson was effectively president.

    4) Government Mind Control

    Conspiracy - The CIA was testing LSD and other hallucinogenic drugs on Americans in a top-secret experiment on behavior modification.

    Truth - The program was known as MK-ULTRA, and it was real. The CIA started by using volunteers; the novelist Ken Kesey was one notable subject. But the program heads soon began dosing people without their knowledge; MK-ULTRA left many victims permanently mentally disabled.

    5) Dalai Lamas salary

    Conspiracy - The Dalai Lama is a CIA agent.

    Truth - Perhaps the reason the Dalai Lama is smiling in all those photos has something to do with the six-figure salary he pulled down from the U.S. government during the 1960s. According to declassified intelligence documents, he earned $180,000 in connection with the CIA’s funding of the Tibetan Resistance to the tune of $1.7 million per year. The idea was to disrupt and hamper China’s infrastructure.

    6) John Lennon was under government surveillance.

    Conspiracy - The FBI was spying on former Beatle John Lennon.

    Truth - Crazy conspiracy theories regarding celebs are always interesting—and this one is most certainly true. Like many counter-culture heroes, Lennon was considered a threat: “Anti-war songs, like “Give Peace a Chance” didn’t exactly endear former Beatle John Lennon to the Nixon administration,” NPR reported in 2010. “In 1971, the FBI put Lennon under surveillance, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service tried to deport him a year later.”

    7) The Government is spying on you.

    Conspiracy - With the advances in technology, the government is using its vast resources to track citizens.

    Truth -  In 2016, government agencies sent 49,868 requests for user data to Facebook, 27,850 to Google, and 9,076 to Apple, according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (the EFF), a major nonprofit organization that defends civil liberties in the digital world and advises the public on matters of internet privacy.

    8) Big tobacco knew that cigarettes caused cancer.

    Conspiracy - For decades, tobacco companies buried evidence that smoking is deadly.

    Truth - At the beginning of the 1950s, research was showing an indisputable statistical link between smoking and lung cancer, but it wasn’t until the late 1990s that Philip Morris, the nation’s largest cigarette maker at the time, even admitted that smoking could cause cancer.

    9) Fake Battle real war.

    Conspiracy - The Gulf of Tonkin incident on August 2, 1964, was faked to provoke American support for the Vietnam War.

    Truth - By the time news reached American ears, the facts surrounding the North Vietnamese attack on the American Naval ship Maddox were already fuzzy. Declassified intelligence documents have since revealed that the Maddox had provided support for South Vietnamese attacks on a nearby island and that the North Vietnamese were responding in kind, according to the U.S. Naval Institute. The event “opened the floodgates for direct American military involvement in Vietnam.” 

    10) There is alien evidence in the southwest.

    Conspiracy - E.T. is buried in the desert of New Mexico.

    Truth - This one is real: The Atari video game E.T., the Extra-Terrestrial failed so miserably that the company buried unsold cartridges in a desert landfill. (Wait, what did you think we meant? Real aliens? In New Mexico? Not yet, anyway.)

    11) Canada tried to develop Gaydar

    Conspiracy - The Canada government was so paranoid about homosexuality that it developed a “gaydar” machine.

    Truth - It really happened: In the 1960s, the government hired a university professor to develop a way to detect homosexuality in federal employees. He came up with a machine that measured pupil dilation in response to same-sex-erotic imagery; the Canadian government used it to exclude or fire more than 400 men from civil service, the military, and the Mounties. 

    12) The illuminati and the US government

    Conspiracy - A secret society that rules the world—the Illuminati—and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) are in cahoots. 

    Truth -  We’re here to tell you that a link does, in fact, exist. Of course, that “link” is actually a hyperlink (i.e., an electronic link between two Internet sites). If you type Illuminati backward—Itanimulli—into a web browser, you will land on the NSA website. Click this link if you dare: Itanimulli.com.

    Others are:- 

    13) The Department of Defence paid for the Patriot Acts.

    Depending on the country, many, if not most, acts of patriotism in nations around the world are genuine. People are proud of their countries and like to show their support. However, many people have also found some of the more organized and epic displays to be forced, possibly even fake. In 2015, Arizona Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake published a report saying that these worries may be well-founded in the US.

    Their report concluded that the Department of Defense had spent millions of dollars to have various sports organizations put on enormous shows of love of country at times. This included several teams in the National Football League, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Hockey League, and Major League Soccer. NASCAR and the athletic departments of several universities also participated.

    In theory, these overwhelming displays of American pride would drive up military recruiting. But nothing has definitely shown that this worked. The NFL also agreed to refund much of the money used for activities unrelated to recruiting.

    14) Nayirah's Testimony Was False

    One of the most iconic events leading up to the Gulf War was the testimony by a girl identified simply as “Nayirah” before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus in 1990. The stories she told about the treatment of Kuwaitis by the invading Iraqis horrified members of Congress and many Americans in general. This included the terrible deaths of newborn babies.

    Although many people (including newborn babies) did die horrifically following Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, Nayirah’s testimony, which was not given under oath, was made up. In fact, the young girl was really the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. The event was set up as part of a public relations campaign called Citizens for a Free Kuwait that was run by an American consulting company then known as Hill & Knowlton.

    15) International elite gather regularly.

    The idea of world power players gathering together behind closed doors to discuss how to run the world is perhaps considered the most outrageous of all conspiracy theories. Except that it really happens every year, at least among American and European leaders. Known as the Bilderberg meetings, the event actually has an official website.

    The first event of this kind took place in 1954 at the Hotel de Bilderberg in The Netherlands. Although the guest lists for these meetings are typically not a secret, the discussions that take place are. Past guests have included monarchs, high-ranking politicians, senior military officials, economic leaders, and powerful journalists.

    16) The CIA controlled journalists and media, (Operation Mockingbird).

    Nowadays, there are few things quite so polarizing as the media and the possibility of “fake news.” Journalists are often seen as either dedicated truth seekers or partisans trying to push an agenda with little to no room in-between. There seems to be no question, however, that the media was controlled as a tool by political operatives at one time (at least).

    The first account of a Central Intelligence Agency initiative called “Operation Mockingbird” was a claim in a 1979 biography of Washington Post owner Katharine Graham. Allegedly, the program paid or threatened movers and shakers of many, if not all, of the most popular news outlets in America as a response to the Soviet Union engaging in similar practices with the European media.

    While the specific existence of Operation Mockingbird remains a mystery, it has been confirmed that the CIA did (and possibly still does) engage in these types of activities.


    17) The US Government planned to commit domestic terrorism and blame Cuba.

    Designated as Operation Northwoods, the proposed plan would have seen US operatives committing atrocities such as sinking boats containing Cuban refugees and hijacking planes. The idea was that the American public would be so outraged that most would be very willing to support going to war with Cuba.

    18) The state Department was infiltrated by Communists.

     McCarthy became a prominent member of the US Senate during the Cold War, using tactics that are now looked upon with shame. (However, many acts mistakenly assigned to him were actually done by the House Un-American Activities Committee.)

    He eventually chaired the powerful Committee on Government Operations. It is now known as the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and is now chaired by Wisconsin Republican Ron Johnson.

    Although McCarthy’s claims of widespread Soviet infiltration in the US government were generally viewed as discredited after his popularity declined, evidence has been made public over the following decades that seem to prove his ideas.

    Perhaps the most famous example would be the files of the Venona project, made public in 1995. Among those implicated in the files was prominent State Department official Alger Hiss.

    19) Big Brother state: NSA and GCHQ International surveillance.

    Ex US National Security Agent Edward Snowden revealed that the government was monitoring the communications of people all over the globe.

    Big political leaders such as France’s president François Hollande and Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel were affected as well as millions of regular citizens.

    20) Tuskegee Study: Injecting impoverished black men with syphilis.

    Between 1932 and 1972 the United States Public Health Service gave 400 poor African-American men syphilis in order to monitor its progression. The aim was to see if the fatal disease behaved differently in black and white men. The men were given wrong and potentially dangerous treatments and medication was sometimes withheld altogether in order to learn more about the STD. Initially supposed to last just six months, the study continued for 40 years. Only 74 of the men were still alive by the end and shockingly 40 wives and 19 children had also contracted the disease as a result.

    21) Watergate

    Richard Nixon was forced to stand down after revelations that he had known about the spying on the Democratic National Headquarters.

    In 1974 astonishing audio recordings were discovered proving that Republican officials were spying on the Democratic National Headquarters in full knowledge of then-President Richard Nixon. The scandal rocked the whole world and resulted in President Nixon becoming the first US President in history to step down from his office.

    22) CIA smuggling cocaine

    Gary Webb published his investigation into drug dealing street gangs and their connection to the CIA.

    He alleged that the CIA smuggled cocaine to the CIA-backed Contra in order to profit from the drug sales. The CIA eventually admitted that they were aware that Contra was dealing cocaine in 1998 at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal so the admission went relatively unnoticed. In 2004, Gary Webb was found shot in the head twice, the police concluded that his death was suicide.

    23) The Government can control the weather

    During the Vietnam War, the CIA would seed the clouds in monsoon season to make it rain even more. The goal of this tactic, which was in use between 1967 and 1972, was to wash out roadways and provoke bad landslides that would prevent the North Vietnamese troops from moving their weapons and provisions.

    24) Operation Fast and Furious

    Operation Fast and Furious was set up to capture drug dealers.

    In 2011 the Obama administration smuggled weapons to Mexican drug cartels in order to trace them back to criminals and capture drug dealers. Known as Operation Fast and Furious, the scheme was uncovered when CBS News found documentation that showed agents at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives discussing how these guns were passed to Mexican gun dealers based in the US.




     

     

     

     

     

      February 24, 2019 4:04 PM MST
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  • 13277
    You apparently are unfamiliar with the expression, "Tell it in a nutshell." Why do you think anyone would read such a long, rambling post?
      February 24, 2019 4:41 PM MST
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  • 34974
    I skimmed most of it.
      February 24, 2019 5:27 PM MST
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  • 1305
    Some people may be interested and may have the time to read the "long rambling post," since it shows the history of how the government treats and deceives people, some people aren't satisfied with the answer "Well some of those conspiracy theories were true," without providing evidence, RosieG is one of those people that likes an answer to be backed up.  Besides, is that the only reply you could give to this question Stu Spelling Bee, to criticize someone else? Well, I hope you feel better now :) This post was edited by kjames at February 25, 2019 1:34 PM MST
      February 25, 2019 1:29 PM MST
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  • 13277
    It's not a question of criticizing or how I feel so much as calling it as I see it. If you felt criticized, I'm sorry.
      February 25, 2019 4:29 PM MST
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  • 1305
    If you feel that you cannot read something because it's too long for you, just pass it by Stu, that would be the thing to do. If I see something I'm not interested in, I just don't bother with it, I don't feel the need to comment; I know that just because it's not my cup of tea, doesn't mean it's not someone else's. One man's meat is another man's poison. This post was edited by kjames at February 26, 2019 12:07 PM MST
      February 26, 2019 12:06 PM MST
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  • 113301
    You certainly spent a great deal of time to justify legitimize conspiracy theory believing people. I appreciate that you did that. Thank you for your reply and Happy Monday Kj.
      February 25, 2019 2:07 AM MST
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  • 1305
    Happy Monday to you too RosieG :)
      February 25, 2019 1:27 PM MST
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  • 46117
    Hey it was a lot of concise info.   Good job
      February 26, 2019 12:13 PM MST
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  • 34974
    I know, what are we gonna do with all these people who believe the conspiracy theory that President Trump and Putin colluded to effect the 2016 election.
      February 24, 2019 5:33 PM MST
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  • 46117
    What are we gonna do when there is irrefutable proof of such behavior?    This is what you believe.  Versus the facts that the entire FBI has not colluded against America.  Two men did.  Putin and Trump.  Not Putin and Comey OF COURSE.

    Are you ever going to cave?    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at February 26, 2019 12:17 PM MST
      February 26, 2019 12:15 PM MST
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  • 34974
    IF they come up with proof...I will believe it. Right now, we know more collusion was with Hillary campaign and Russians.
    We do know Russians like to make us fight....they play both sides. We also know other countries also interfere with other countries elections. Right or wrong, we all do it.
      February 27, 2019 4:47 AM MST
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