This is so BIZARRE. The jeff epstein ALLEGEDLY wanted to cryogenically have his head and his male private part frozen. C'mon! Seriously?

Some people believe we will have the technology to "transplant" their brains in the future.
Though honestly, unless they're already "blessed" with a porn-star schlong ... most guys would hope their new body has better "equipment".
(yes, most guys are insecure that way)

LOL

Well, you do say "allegedly" - but no-one can give any possible guarantee that any of that cynical freezing trade will preserve any more than its shareholders' bank-accounts. So I don't think we need worry.

I agree Walt, about that male insecurity, but I reckon the vanity in Epstein's alleged wish is just as much his own insecurity! 

This man doesn't believe in GOD or a life after death.  He is an empty soul crying for some release and spends his days trying to satiate his worried mind in any manner his small brain can think of.  

So, he spends his time stalking and molesting women/children.  

Of course he is terrified of death.  He is an empty nothing.  And, GOD FORBID there is a GOD?  He is going to try and put that meeting off for as long as possible.  

This is the birth of a monster in the making.  He is already a monster, but if left to his own devices?  GOD KNOWS WHERE IT WOULD HAVE LED.

I'm sure there are any number of people who will happily accommodate that request right now.

I have no idea who Jeff Epstein is, only that he is accused of extremely serious sexual offences. (Has he actually been charged, tried and found guilty? if so presumably he is now in prison?)

More to the point, I regard his wish for anything of him to be cryo-preserved bizarre, but not because of who he is, whatever crimes he may have committed or sentence he received. Though if he dies in prison I doubt his wish will be possible.

That is Epstein's personal wish and there are enough others with the same wish to make it a blatantly commercial proposition; but  I think the whole concept bizarre, gruesome, totally unproven, not at all thought through; and deeply exploitative.

No-one can say there is or there is not, any sort of god or spiritual after-life; neither are at all provable either way. Indeed the notion suggests the never-ending boredom of drifting around the aether as formless and frankly pointless "ghosts". I don't believe there are, but I would far rather think there might be than throw in my chances and squander my benefactors' inheritance with the likes of Alcor.

Even if this appalling experiment with human life eventually works at all physically, it still promises only drifting around some far-away future so alien to us its revivees would be rather like orphaned babies, having no family, having to learn everything anew, and having to be accepted by whatever that society may be. 

As far as I know there is or was a similar company (or Alcor branch?) in France, and another in Russia. I don't know of any others, but I have heard one legal case in France overturned a personal wish to be freeze-preserved, and possibly halted the practice there.  


I would utterly condemn Jeff Epstein for the serious criminal acts for which I take it he has been imprisoned; but if he wants to be frozen, though I think he's a fool, it's his own choice. I do not believe it will work, but it's comforting to consider that a physically-successful revivee is highly unlikely to be the same "person" who originally died.  Or... "died"...?

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Let us forget at who is or will be dead, or his or her past life. Let us ignore Epstein for the moment, even if he is now a prisoner for some appalling crimes. Instead, let us look at what is really bizarre...

Cryo-preservation of a head or entire body can only start once, and immediately once, the person has actually died by known medical standards; and soon enough for the brain not to have been damaged. So this means either dying naturally, or by euthanasia if and where that is legal and by full consent; but in either case, in hospital and ready to be whisked away for preservation. Anything else would be murder.

So what can the family do? Whether the preservation is whole-body or decapitated, does it have a full, religious or secular, funeral, and for the decapitated body, burial or cremation, as if for a dead but physically-entire person? Is the body or head in the Dewar-flask actually "dead" legally, socially and biologically; or in a strange, suspended animation?

It all seems to leave the bereaved in a peculiar limbo.... If you are not religious you accept aging and dying as a very sad finality, but natural and inevitable. If religious you accept it as natural and inevitable, but as a Wiccan friend poetically put it to me after becoming a widow, "not gone, just in another room". Either way, you grieve but also come to accept that person is no longer physically with you.

This cryo-preservation experiment - and it IS only an experiment, and being carried out only for money - must make such acceptance very difficult. Even very ancient societies could grieve and accept, and when they used mummifying and grave-goods, it was for that "next room", not some impossibly speculated future of its own world.

You see what I mean about not thought through - and that's thinking about what happens in the here-and-now, let alone a century or centuries hence.