Do all white people benefit from white privilege or just some?

Is this a discussion we've had here before?

Us personally,no.

Prodigal and loon lips about sun up the rational and objective side of this carp though.

The YOUNG TURKS I posted a video Cenk Uygur knows a lot about what this topic really means.  Much more than I do or anyone else on this thread. It's really good.  

The Young Turks is the best political internet broadcast that I have found so far.   Differing  opinions but all progressives.    Superb.   This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at September 24, 2019 5:26 PM MDT

Watch my tape.  IT IS GOOD. They even use the f word.

Apparently, it has a lot to do with more than just thinking that white people have it good and black people do not.  

I don't doubt that it exists...I mean it's pretty inherent that in any group the majority is going to benefit because they are the majority. I can't say I've been in a situation where I felt my race blatantly gave me an advantage but like you I can't say I've really spent any great deal of time exploring it.

I like what you say, but I still would rather be poor and white than poor and black in most places; but you are right as rain.  POOR people are even more loathsome as a rule to people with MORE.  They would prefer to be in a neighborhood with a well-to do black person than have poor whites come into the community.  

Totally agree that a wealth divide is more prominent than a racial divide.

I was involved in an interesting situation a few weeks back. I went out to a bar with a group of friends and I carpooled with one. She's blind as a bat and particularly struggles with nighttime driving; a fact I didn't know until she picked me up at my house that night. And, she had forgotten her glasses. Later, as we got ready to call it a night, she and I were the only sober ones present and one of the girls asked her to help her get her and her car home, about one mile away. So, the friend that had driven me got into the driver's seat of the drunk girl's car and I followed behind in my "blind" friend's car. She was making a left out of the plaza and didn't see the median, so she turned into the (empty) oncoming traffic lanes. It was late and I was autopiloting it, so I followed suit. She tried to do a U-turn, but officers had been watching the people exit the bar and instantly pulled out and blocked her. I pulled into the plaza's next entrance instead, then got out of the car and went and sat about 50 feet from the "scene" and watched. My friend was detained for probably an hour. They put her through every field sobriety test imaginable and then ultimately called backup officers to bring a breathalyzer test. She passed everything with flying colors, but they still kept her forever and one officer constantly reminded her that, even if she passed everything, he still had the right to arrest her. Nobody ever came to talk to me even though I committed the exact same offense two seconds after her and stayed on the scene, even walking over to talk to her at one point. 

Did the officers genuinely not see me? Did they (accurately) presume my error was following her rather than driving drunk? Did they assume that, if I was guilty of drunk driving, I wouldn't stick around? Or, did they detain her and put her through all the tests because she's a Latina and not do the same to me because I'm white? Until now, I simply assumed nothing nefarious occurred and was glad I didn't get hassled. Now, I wonder. And, I will probably never know the truth.  So, yes, a lot goes into a stop- much more than skin color, but I think these are questions we should be asking. I think they're questions we should all want to know the truth behind. It would be really interesting if data from bodycams got used in a research study to see if there are disparities in who the cops let go. There were studies done a while back that showed that all officers (even black officers) were more likely to draw their weapons on a person of color. It's probably not a stretch to say there's an imbalance with routine stops too. 

All that said, I concur with all the discussions brought up here about wealth, and especially the point you made about what would happen if it was distributed evenly as well as the solution. 

But considering minorities are statistically more likely to belong to a lower socioeconomic class, isn't that a race issue?

No, it is class issue and attitude issue. 
And there are more poor whites than blacks. At least according to food stamps recipient stats. 

There studies that show police are less likely to use deadly force on a black perp. (Likely because of the risk of being called racist)

https://www.policeone.com/legal/articles/482683006-Perceptions-about-police-use-of-deadly-force-and-race-A-psychologists-view/

WRONG.  WRONG and WRONG.  Sorry.  It is my humble opinion that you just spewed some facts that you read.

It is far easier to shoot most black men than it is to shoot most white men.  As far as repurcussions are concerned.  First of all I get to have a nice lawyer who will defend me.  The black family gets a public defender.    

Since you will deliberately misconstrue my tape I produced by someone who can argue white privilege very accurately, I'll give you an example:  He uses Bristol Palin's pregnancy and how it was a PRIVATE MATTER THAT WAS PERSONAL versus if she was knocked up black in the projects.  If she is black that spreads the problem of blight and decay in the black community... and how that spreads all over those communities.  DECAY.  

White girl, has a personal problem 
Black girl spreads urban decay because of her lazy shiftless welfare living family.

That is white privilege to me.  Being a HILLBILLY like Bristol Palin and having a redneck boyfriend who likes to swear and shoot things, but looking away at that scene and continue  looking down your nose at a minority in the exact same situation. CLASSIC.  


This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at September 24, 2019 6:03 PM MDT

No those examples are still about class. Palin have money and the black girl you mentioned does not. (And I did not say those words about her...you did) 

Yes more young black men are shot. You know who is next....young white men.  You know who harms the most police officers....young black men.  It goes to actions, attitude and class. If you get stupid with police....you it does not go well for you. 

I just looked up the stats. The US population is little more than 12% each Black and Hispanic and 62% White. 40% of SNAP benefit users are White, 25% Black, and 10% Hispanic. So, yes, there are more White people using food stamps, but the numbers don't align with the population. Otherwise, only 12% of SNAP users would be Black, not 25%. Even still, that's not really representative of who's living in poverty. It only shows who's receiving benefits. The poverty rate for Whites is about 12%. Blacks are at 26% and Hispanics at 23%. https://www.povertyusa.org/facts Ergo, there are more poor whites than blacks, but the numbers are disproportionate. Minorities (aside from Asians) are more likely to be poor than whites.

I also read the link you shared. It doesn't say that police are less likely to use deadly force on a black perp. It says that some studies have shown officers hesitate longer when firing at black suspects and that officers sometimes self-report using restraint and that concerns over being accused of bias is one potential cause of this. There was a previous study (I can't find now) that said all officers (all races) are more likely to draw on a black suspect. 

They would know. They have Ph.D's in this subject.  

I think Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock are superb comedians, I don't think they'd be able to be this free with their comedy now, not with political correctness, I just spent 2 hours watching old clips on YouTube.