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If Bernie's Healthcare has no premiums, does this mean everyone on SS/Medicare will have an increase in their monthly benefit check?

A PREMIUM for Medicare is automatically deducted from each recipient's SS check. The amount is over $100 per month.   
If there is no premiums in Bernie's plan, why is he not campaigning that his healthcare play will also be increasing everyone's SS check each month?

Posted - February 25

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  • 1175
    Because providing people health care and giving people more spending money are NOT the same thing.


      February 25, 2020 9:04 PM MST
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  • 21321
    Ok. Then what will be the resulting effect on the amount of a SS recipient monthly check?
      February 26, 2020 8:48 AM MST
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  • 5488

    What leads you to think one is necessarily to do with the other? 

    Curious how you are so ready with relevant polling and “research” (such as it is) whenever it supports your position. But not in this case, despite having the same access to that info as anyone else...

    This post was edited by Don Barzini at February 25, 2020 9:50 PM MST
      February 25, 2020 9:21 PM MST
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  • 21321
    Bernie says NO premium. Well currently there is a premium deducted from SS recipients checks monthly.  (Unless they qualify in their state for "extra help") So if no premium is deducted then the check amount would increase....

    I have not been able to find anything addressing this matter. I have looked. I have asked supporters etc. 

    What poll have I quoted in Bernie's healthcare? I am not the only one quotes polls either. 
      February 26, 2020 8:45 AM MST
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  • 9840
    Ever been outside the US?

    I suffered an horrific hand injury a month ago. Spent four days in hospital. Hospital bill = $0.

    I pay taxes. Taxes pay for services, that's what they're FOR. Any tax cuts have to be made up in revenue - either by slashing services, or running bigger deficits, or both. In His Royal Orangeness's case, it's both. The Australian healthcare system is funded by a 1.5% income tax levy. I'm happy to pay that. You can have private insurance on top of that, to pay for extras - choice of doctor, private room, no waiting for elective surgery, dental, eyeglasses etc. Basic healthcare is free.
      February 26, 2020 12:58 AM MST
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  • 21321
    Not the topic. 

    This topic is about the premium deducted from people on SS and if Bernie's plan will or will not continue that deduction.
      February 26, 2020 8:46 AM MST
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  • 9840
    An increase is take-home SS would be a huge shot in the arm for the economy. People living on SS live paycheck to paycheck, so they SPEND it to cover basic living expenses, unlike the wealthy who squirrel in away into a Cayman Islands tax haven. One increases the amount of revenue in the system, the other reduces it. Basic economics - did you study that in grade school? This post was edited by my2cents at February 26, 2020 4:24 PM MST
      February 26, 2020 2:57 PM MST
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  • 31648
    Shot. (Sorry, but what you wrote might get removed.) This post was edited by Element 99 at February 26, 2020 4:23 PM MST
      February 26, 2020 3:05 PM MST
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  • 9840
    Typo. To quote Randy,

      February 26, 2020 9:19 PM MST
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  • 9840
    She didn't kill it, just edited it to what I obviously meant. Bless her, she treats her position as a mod seriously and although we disagree vehemently on politics, she doesn't abuse her privileges.
    Makes it even weirder that she supports a despot who most certainly DOES abuse his position on a daily basis.
      February 27, 2020 5:12 AM MST
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  • 21321
    Thank you.
      February 27, 2020 5:28 AM MST
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  • 31648
    Which part are you thanking? Hahahaha.
      February 27, 2020 10:12 AM MST
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  • 21321
    First paragraph....I chose to ignore shot at Trump and supporting him. 
      February 27, 2020 10:57 AM MST
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  • 21321
    Again...off topic. 
    There is a monthly PREMIUM payment for Medicare deducted from the SS check.   The question is: will that still be deducted under Bernie's healthcare plan.

    (Yes I understand people having more spending money helps the economy) 
      February 26, 2020 4:28 PM MST
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  • 3630

    Hello again, my:


    Like I said, there's DOZENS of plans out there, and NOBODY knows which particular plan will be enacted, if any..  IF they adopt MY plan, that $100 plus will go into the retiree's pocket..

    excon

      February 26, 2020 9:08 AM MST
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  • 21321
    Again...my question is about Bernie's current plan. 
      February 26, 2020 9:17 AM MST
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  • 3630
    Hello again, my:

    You couldn't find it.  I couldn't either..  So, I'm ASSUMING, since foregoing that money would be a TAX, Bernie, like me, would put it into the retiree's pocket..

    excon

    PS>  Now, if EVERYBODY paid $100+/mo toward Bernie's plan, it'll pay for EVERYBODY'S health care with enough money left over to buy 6 aircraft carriers..

    excon
    This post was edited by excon at February 26, 2020 12:10 PM MST
      February 26, 2020 9:22 AM MST
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  • 21321
    I assume he is keeping it as otherwise it is something that could be beneficial in a campaign.

    But yes IF everyone aged 18 and up paid $100 every month it would pay for it. But we both know that is not going to happen. Anyone running on that will fail.....

    209M * $100 = 20.9T 
      February 26, 2020 9:39 AM MST
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  • 3630
    Hello again, my:

    So, you're saying that ONLY retirees will pay the $100 tax???  Nahhh..

    excon This post was edited by excon at February 27, 2020 10:13 AM MST
      February 26, 2020 9:44 AM MST
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  • 21321
    I am saying he will work it around as a payroll tax or something else. But I do not believe he is increasing anyones SS check like that. 
      February 26, 2020 10:19 AM MST
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  • 3630
    Hello again, my:

    Here’s my right wing argument. He’s not increasing my Social Security. He’s just returning my own money 
    excon
      February 26, 2020 1:29 PM MST
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  • 31648
    A different answer....I hope so.
      February 26, 2020 12:11 PM MST
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  • 31648
    I think some folks here are confused by your question and aren't separating SS from medicare. I am on SS and medicare, so it is quite clear what you are asking. It would be nice to get that extra $125 every month.
      February 26, 2020 3:04 PM MST
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  • 21321
    Thank you. I tried to reword it to explain more.
      February 26, 2020 4:43 PM MST
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