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What happens if MI cannot get the election results certified?

Wayne Co (Detroit) is said to have more votes than voters on tbe ledger.  
After some back and forth, the 4 person board cannot agree. (2 Reps and 2 Dems)

Posted - November 19

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  • 33701
    Straws grasping they are.

      November 20, 2020 6:51 PM MST
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  • 7344
    Excellent
      November 22, 2020 1:03 PM MST
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  • 11207
    I'm not an expert in US state law. Neither are you. This guy is, and he says the veto is absolutely in play - a bill is a bill is a bill.
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3698101
      November 20, 2020 10:57 PM MST
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  • 23670
    It is not a bill. Constitution gives the power solely to the legislature and Amendment 12 confirms it. 
      November 21, 2020 5:18 AM MST
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  • 11207
    Neither you or I is an expert in state law. The links I posted is from a guy who actually knows what he is talking about, as is this article:
    https://www.vox.com/21562815/biden-trump-fraud-state-legislatures-electors
      November 21, 2020 5:29 AM MST
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  • 23670
    Constitution is clear. MI law also clear...it goes to the legislature to determine.  Not the Governor. Governor has no power in it, the laws all give sole power to the state legislature. 

    Again Courts will decide if it comes to that. 
      November 21, 2020 5:35 AM MST
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  • 23670
    Recounting illegal votes means NOTHING.  This will be settled in the court.
      November 20, 2020 3:48 PM MST
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  • 11207
    Also the allegations about Detroit are pure bologna. It's a city of over a half million (70% POC), less than half of them voted - any fraud there points in the OTHER direction, ie mostly black voters disenfranchised/removed from the rolls between the time their votes were mailed in and the count.
      November 20, 2020 8:01 PM MST
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  • 23670
    The numbers do not balance. 

    Detroit has 30,000 more voter registered than they have eligable voters. So much for removed before they can vote... Yes just under half voted but it was higher percentage than in 2016. 
      November 20, 2020 8:22 PM MST
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  • 11207
    Again, horse puckey. Detroit has more adult citizens than votes cast.
      November 20, 2020 8:47 PM MST
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  • 23670
    Not about adult citizens.  It is about legal adults eligible to vote.  But upon farther research the city did update their registration roles.  Removing the roughly 2500 dead people. And 5000 who were registered 2 and 3 times. Taking over 30k of ineligible voters in Jun of 2020. My data was from Dec 2019-Jun 2020.   
    This is why we should never just mail out ballots.  It places extra ballots in the public that anyone could return. Especially when courts and politicians remove what little safeguards there are for mail in ballots.
      November 21, 2020 4:39 AM MST
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  • 8390
    Georgia has certified Biden as the winner. In Michigan, the Senate majority and House speaker, both Republicans, said that they have seen nothing to prevent them from following the law and declaring Biden the winner. So it doesn't look like there will be any miracles to save Trump's a$$ from being a one-term president. Better luck in 2024, m2c!
      November 20, 2020 6:55 PM MST
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  • 23670
    It ain't over.   Just wait there is more coming. 
      November 20, 2020 7:52 PM MST
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  • 8390
    More what? We still haven't seen any evidence.
      November 20, 2020 8:23 PM MST
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  • 23670
    It will come out in the courts.  They are building the evidence for election fraud (not voter fraud so much as that is not likely to result in any flips) in multiple states. 
      November 20, 2020 8:29 PM MST
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  • 8390
    What courts? None of the lawsuits have gone anywhere, and several have been withdrawn.
      November 20, 2020 8:34 PM MST
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  • 23670
    It is coming. Give them a little time. 
    Did you hear about Dominion (voting matching company) refusing to talk to PN legislators, lawyering up and closing the offices? Why would the do that?
      November 20, 2020 8:42 PM MST
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  • 11207
    Dominion is refusing to comment on baseless allegations and lawyering up to enter counter suits for libel.
      November 20, 2020 8:49 PM MST
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  • 23670
    Maybe but it looks bad...looking like the are hiding something. Why leave the area? Why would 40% of their employees remove themselves from linked in since the election? Why not testify to the PN committee to clear their name? 
      November 20, 2020 8:55 PM MST
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  • 11207
    The PN committee had no evidence based questions to answer, and the employees are under threat from Trumpicans who believe their ridiculous god's tweets. He sued a Nevada elector (a Navy vet who has faced issues with homelessness) for doing her job, for crying out loud.
      November 20, 2020 9:03 PM MST
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  • 23670
    Looks bad. They should have showed up and answered the questions. Cleared their name. 
      November 21, 2020 5:24 AM MST
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  • 7344
    Are you suggesting that they have an obligation to subject themselves to meaningless harassment because somebody has made allegations against them that are not true?
      November 21, 2020 11:53 AM MST
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  • 23670
    I believe that if their customer.  The people of the state of PN have questions they want answers to, the company should go and answer those question honestly while under oath. 
      November 21, 2020 12:39 PM MST
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  • 8390
    If there was so much fraud, some be evidence of it would have leaked by now. Even Tucker Carlson said it's time for them to show evidence or move on, and he's on their side.
      November 20, 2020 10:37 PM MST
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  • 23670
    I don't care about Tucker. You have verify everything he says cause he spins it to a lie.  
      November 21, 2020 5:21 AM MST
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