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Discussion » Questions » Current Events and News » More proof that this new impeachment is a shame and a sham. Chief Justice Roberts will not be presiding over the "trial"?

More proof that this new impeachment is a shame and a sham. Chief Justice Roberts will not be presiding over the "trial"?

Why does the Senate think they do not have to follow the Constitution?

Posted - January 25

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  • 18351
    Are you sure it was only protesting the election results and not attempting to overturn the results of the election?
      January 26, 2021 8:37 AM MST
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  • 27238
    As I understand it continuing to oppose the results.  And not conceding for the "good of the country."  If they go that route,  election fraud evidence will be presented finally. Dispite courts who refuses to allow it to be shown. 
      January 26, 2021 5:07 PM MST
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  • 37830
    I was only addressing your question and nothing beyond that.
      January 25, 2021 7:58 PM MST
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  • 60
    If they are allowed to present evidence, then they could do that.  Trump's lawyers could also present much more blatant examples of Democrats inciting violence as part of the defense.  The Democrats would not like that either.

    However, that assumes that they even allows evidence to be presented.  The House did not in their impeachment proceedings.  They just declared him guilty without actually allowing any witnesses or evidence to be presented.  Now that the Democrats control the Senate, they could do the same thing and just allow a little bit of debate and then just push for the vote.
      January 25, 2021 8:21 PM MST
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  • 27238
    Will depend on if they go for immediate dismissal.  Again I do not know if they will or not. 
      January 26, 2021 7:03 AM MST
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  • 18351
    Although the Constitution calls on the U.S. chief justice to preside over presidential impeachments, a senator presides when the impeached is not the current president, a Senate source said. First elected to the chamber in 1974, Leahy, 80, holds the title of Senate president pro tempore.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/u-s-house-to-bring-trump-incitement-charge-to-senate-launching-second-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN29U13G
      January 25, 2021 7:36 PM MST
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  • 37830
    Thank you for reiterating.
      January 25, 2021 7:59 PM MST
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  • 60
    The Constitution also states that the purpose of impeachment in the House and trial in the Senate is to remove the official from office.  Trump is already out of office.  So, that is a moot point and, therefore, there is no reason for the trial.  This is just all political theater.  The Democrats hate Trump and will do anything to ruin his name.  That was proven when they pushed the Russia collusion hoax and it has continued with every single one of their attempts to remove him from office.  They don't care about the truth.  All they care about is destroying anyone who dares to challenge their power.
      January 25, 2021 8:28 PM MST
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  • 18351
    "The constitutional text is silent on whether an officer can be tried after the officer resigns or his/her term ends. However, as the 1876 case of William W. Belknap illustrates, when the issue has arisen, the House has been willing to impeach after resignation, and the Senate has been willing to try the official after resignation."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
      January 25, 2021 9:38 PM MST
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  • 27238
    That is NOT in the Constitution.

    Article II, Section 4:

    The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.


    They do not have the authority to impeach a citizen Trump. Only a President Trump...therefore Justice Roberts is who is Constitutionally required for that trial.  

    This post was edited by my2cents at January 26, 2021 8:54 AM MST
      January 26, 2021 6:49 AM MST
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  • 18351
    Apparently, a former president can be brought up on impeachment charges for something he did while he was president.  
      January 26, 2021 8:36 AM MST
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  • 60
    The prescribed punishment for conviction after impeachment is removal from office.  Trump is already out of office.  Therefore there is no point to impeachment.  It will accomplish nothing.  To continue with this process on a citizen who does not hold any public office is a corruption of the US Constitution.  Leftist have shown nothing but contempt for the Constitution over the last sever months. This post was edited by my2cents at January 27, 2021 6:23 AM MST
      January 26, 2021 8:57 AM MST
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  • 18351
    It may keep him from holding office again which can only be a good thing.  Leftists have shown contempt for the Constitution?  Like all the Conservatives have such clean hands.  Give me a break.
      January 26, 2021 9:07 AM MST
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  • 27238
    Maybe....but it is still of a PRESIDENT so for it to be done Constitutionally, Cheif Justice Roberts must preside. 
    Congress cannot impeach a private citezen. 
      January 26, 2021 10:19 AM MST
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  • 18351
    I know you don't want to believe it, but Trump is no longer the president.  There seems to be precedent to being able to impeach a former president, however for acts committed while he was in office.
      January 26, 2021 12:26 PM MST
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  • 27238
    No there is not precedent to impeach a former President. It has NEVER happened. 
      January 26, 2021 12:36 PM MST
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  • 18351
    My mistake.  I should have said a former office holder, but that doesn't mean that the former office holder can't be the president.  
      January 26, 2021 12:56 PM MST
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  • 27238
    And because the former office is President....this requires Chief Justice Roberts to preside or it is not Constitutional. 
      January 26, 2021 2:35 PM MST
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  • 18351
    If he was still president, Roberts would have to preside, but since he's only Joe Schmo, he doesn't have to, but he may still be culpable for misdeeds he committed when he was president.  
      January 26, 2021 9:35 PM MST
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  • 27238
    And as just Joe Schmo Congress has no right to impeach...cannot have it both ways. He is either being treated as President or citizen.    As President...CJ Roberts is required or as citizen Congress has no power to impeach.   
      January 27, 2021 6:28 AM MST
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  • 6959
    I'm going to enjoy you for the next 4 years. LMAO!!!
      January 26, 2021 12:28 PM MST
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  • 27238
    Lol. Glad I could make you laugh. :)
      January 26, 2021 12:34 PM MST
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