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How should I determine this?

I have a little over 300 credits right now.  When they get to 500, I plan on giving them all away to one member.  I will do this every time they hit that number.  How should I determine who gets them? It will not be the same member each time. 

Posted - October 25, 2016

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  • 2465
    No need for me to wait until you've reached your goal, so I just sent you my matching 500.  Happy gifting!
      October 27, 2016 12:21 AM MDT
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  • 7939
    For what it's worth, the credits page has a HUGE disclaimer that says:
    Please be aware that our credit system is just for fun. Credits have no value outside of allowing you to give gifts and they aren't a true reflection of who the most active muggers are, who creates the best content, or anything. Moreover, the "ranks" can be completely manipulated by the admin by simply awarding any given Mugger extra credits at any point in time or by individual Muggers who chose to purchase credits. The number of credits any person may have at any given time is NOT a reflection of a member's output, loyalty, expertise, or anything.

    I know some people will still use them as a point system because they will generally trend to showcase who the most active Muggers are. So be it. In this case, people want to give theirs away and that's totally fine. We have the transfer option in place. If I remember correctly, the original AB allowed people to assign points to people of various values, to recognize the people who gave greater contributions/ more substantial answers. I could see this logic here being on par with that. Odds are, Karen and you are going to choose someone who is either really helpful or a positive presence here. That's worth rewarding. At the same time, I see Sharonna's point as well- they're like points, but you can use them and not diminish your standing. Eh, any way you look at it, it's a positive thing. If giving them away makes you and Karen happy, and they'll obviously make someone else happy, more power to you. I've seen people promise credit transfers for answering questions, too. Ya'll are going to use the system in ways I never imagined, but I'm glad it's a positive thing, however they're getting used.
      October 26, 2016 11:11 AM MDT
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  • 2465
    I look at it as a positive thing too.  I don't think there's any difference between giving someone a virtual gift or giving them points/credits to do with how they wish. Either way you look at it, it's a gift of appreciation and intended to be in fun.  Unfortunately, some have taken this a bit too seriously declaring how they have far exceeded the cumulative totals of multiple members combined.  This isn't in the spirit in which the point/credit system was created.

    When I was with Answerbag, I was never aware of how many points I had.  And it wasn't until Karen's question raised the issue that I asked where I could find mine.   I thought it was a great idea because even though I don't give virtual gifts, I know other members enjoy doing so. It seemed like a win-win situation.  Since this was her idea, she will be the one to choose the individual, whoever it may be.  I'm just following her lead.

    I am curious about one thing though.  You said you see Sharon's point as well - they're like points.  However, you also said the credits earned here aren't like points because they don't reflect who the most active members are or who contributed the most and it doesn't reflect a member's loyalty or their expertise. That being said, can you please clarify the part of Sharon's point you agree with?


      October 27, 2016 12:17 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    The type of people I like to spend time interacting with don't want gifts.  They want good answers and for that I want points.  I don't want a bunch of cliques where everyone is gifting everyone else.  It sounds about as fun as Farmville.   Here is a cabbage from me.  Send me a carrot, okay?
      October 27, 2016 12:31 AM MDT
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  • 2465
    Nobody is talking about whether those we hang out with want or don't want gifts.  IMO, interacting with the questions and answers posted on the site is far more interesting than collecting virtual points.  You don't seem to understand.  What makes you think that gifting points is going to suddenly result in members joining a bunch of cliques and participate in a gifting frenzy.  And like I've said before, if it doesn't sound like fun to you, then don't do it, but why fault others that want to?  You're concerned that your cabbage/carrot scenario will be the result, but what you don't understand is, it's already that scenario.  The questions ARE the cabbage and you expect a carrot (the "like") when you answer.  So simple, I'm surprised you don't get it.

      October 27, 2016 1:15 AM MDT
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  • Thank you. I got them. :)
      October 27, 2016 3:52 AM MDT
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  • 7939

    People are always going to be motivated by different things. If you look at any of the trending apps these days, it's all about moving up to the next level, getting the next badge, or earning something for the time you've invested. The old Mug was very altruistic, in the fact that all you got was the interaction. You couldn't even "like" things in a way that was measurable. For many people, this was enough. It was enough for me as well. Heck, I still can't get into the habit of liking stuff here, but I also recognize that something as simple as a "like" is a "Hey. I see you. You contributed. Thank you." And, it's a really easy thing to do. People like that pat on the back, even when they don't set out to get 100 likes.

     

    Credits are kind of along the same line. Coming from AB, there was a point and rank system. I did feel accomplished when I climbed up the ranks, even though that was never my goal. For some, it was the ultimate goal. They craved it because it showed how involved they were. Others,  who seemed a whole lot like yourself, had their accounts nuked or restarted because they didn't want to be part of that point system or to have their contributions assessed. They wanted their contributions appreciated for their own merit, not because they were an illuminati. 

    So, the challenge when creating this site became, "How can I give people the positive feedback they have been asking for in some kind of point system without turning into a war on points?" If all people care about is points, the actual types of content they add diminish. Most people here give really substantive responses because their reward is knowing they've helped someone or build a relationship. If it's all about points, the quality tanks. Plus, it's a feeding frenzy- who can outdo who?

    By tying it into the gifts, the real motivation to earn credits, in my hope, is to keep spreading positive juju throughout the site. Top earners, who are likely our most active members, have the opportunity to influence the community in a positive way by sending people gifts. Generally speaking, people do earn credits with their activity. If you never buy or receive credits, it can be a reflection of your activity. You and I both know this doesn't mean a whole lot. You could give 100 crap answers and still be rewarded the same as if you gave 100 solid answers. So, part of leaving it open to buy, gift, or receive credits from an admin kind of helps dissuade the competitive kind of thinking, I hope. It's a shame people are using it to stack themselves up against others, as that's really what I wanted to avoid. I see stuff like what you guys are doing, and I saw Lago offer credits for a substantive answer, WW for the first right answer, Excon betting on the election with Mug credits (lol I kid you not!), and I love all of that. And, if Sharonna wants to look at them as points and see that she's earned a lot through activity, that's ok, too. If it makes her feel good seeing that she has a good stash, more power to her. In this case, they are points, or points with benefits, as she said somewhere. 

    So, what do credits mean to you? If you're using them in a positive way, any kind of positive way, it's in keeping with their intent. If other people are using them for something negative, well, you and I know better. You can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. And, does it matter if someone else is using them in an unintended way? You know those "points" don't make someone a better Mugger. 99.99% of the people here know that having twice as many points as someone else doesn't really mean someone is more valuable. 

      October 27, 2016 11:26 AM MDT
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  • 2465
    Wow, that's quite an answer.  Thank you for taking the time to go into such detail.  Even though I don't embrace the point system as aggressively as someone else, at least your explanation helped to bring this into a little better focus.  So thank you for that.
      October 27, 2016 8:52 PM MDT
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  • I look at it as a positive thing as well. I figure, I don't send gifts so why hoard them? Like you said, it's not a rank and file system, it credits. Some feel good about sending gifts, it would make me feel good to send credits. I've sent one gift since we started getting these and I doubt if I'll send any more. It's not that i don't like them, I just don't use them. I think it's a cute idea and it can brighten someones day to receive a virtual gift, that's always a good thing. I think Shar sees them as points like what we had on AB, if they were, they wouldn't be transferable. When you spend them or gift them, it still keeps a running tally of how many you have accumulated, so I don't see this as losing anything. I see it as giving something to the Mug community. I don't have a clique, so I don't see what that came from either. I like the credit system, and I intend to use the credits in the way that works best for me. :)
      October 27, 2016 3:51 AM MDT
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  • 3907
    Hello Karen:

    If it was me, I'd give them to somebody who gave me a gift.

    excon
      October 26, 2016 7:07 AM MDT
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  • That's what I did last time. :)
      October 26, 2016 7:12 AM MDT
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  • 3907
    Hello again, Karen:

    Ok, I'll send you another gift..  How about a bus??  I got several.. 

    excon This post was edited by excon at October 26, 2016 7:21 AM MDT
      October 26, 2016 7:20 AM MDT
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  • LOL!! You are such a sweetheart. :) You know buses have a special meaning for me. :)
      October 26, 2016 7:22 AM MDT
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  • 3907
    Hello again, Karen:

    I had a rush on buses..  However, I have this very nice monorail..  What would it take to put you in the drivers seat??

    excon
      October 26, 2016 7:29 AM MDT
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  • Learning how to drive might be the first step.  :)
      October 26, 2016 8:41 AM MDT
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  • 3907
    Hello again, K:

    It's on a RAIL..  What's to learn?

    excon
      October 26, 2016 8:43 AM MDT
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  • Good point.  Just sit there and let it do what it has to do. 
      October 26, 2016 8:45 AM MDT
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  • Come up with a question and give them to best answer.
      October 26, 2016 7:09 AM MDT
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  • I like that idea. :)
      October 26, 2016 7:13 AM MDT
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  • That's how I do it. 
      October 26, 2016 7:17 AM MDT
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  • Cool!! As soon as I hit 500, I'll post a question and give the credits to the best answer. :) Now I just have to come up with a decent question. :)
      October 26, 2016 7:18 AM MDT
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