Many of those people suffering from Trumpresidencyitis* are sobbing, seeking counseling, protesting, some are even committing violent acts

LOL, thank you!  Your last line should be enshrined on their foreheads like tattoos.

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@RandyD -- Related to my complaint elsewhere on this thread...

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Hartfire: young Democrats were one of the largest groups who failed to vote. Perhaps they are now learning the consequences.

You: Your last line should be enshrined on their foreheads like tattoos.

There was a Democratic candidate many young people were enthusiastic to vote for. His name was Bernie Sanders. Perhaps you've heard of him? But older Democrats, non-white Democrats, and the Democratic money-raising establishment were all afraid of the GOP screaming "Socialist", so they made sure Sanders wasn't the Democratic presidential candidate.

What were Millenials supposed to do then? Vote for Trump? Vote for Jill Stein? Suck it up and vote for HRC?

What if they did suck it up and vote for HRC (a candidate you deplore) and STILL ended up on the losing end?

Don't they then have a valid complaint that they did what they were "supposed to do" (vote for the lesser of two Evils) and still go screwed?

I suppose actually thinking these questions through is waaaaay more work then just being a bigot and shouting "Haw Haw! STOOPID WHINY ENTITLED Millenials!"...;-D...

@hartfire -- The pollsters who failed to predict the Trump victory are still doing post-mortems on their data, predictions, and models.  It will probably be some time before a complete picture emerges.

Based on what I've read to date, a few interesting observations have emerged.

-- It appears the previous defintions of "likely voters" need to be updated. Trump did exceptionally well with voters (mostly rural, white, older and without post-secondary education) who were underrepresnted in poll samples. There is probably a mixture of technological, cultural, and sampling factors which caused the "hidden" voters to missed.

-- If you see media hype calling Trump's victory a grass-roots groundswell of pro-GOP voting, it's incorrect. Trump received about 60 million votes, the same Romney got in 2012 and McCain got in 2008. What changed was about 9 million Democratic voters who showed up in 2008 stayed home in 2016 (Obama '08 = 69 million votes, HRC '16 = 60 million votes).

--Related to the point above, Trump did somewhat better (proportionately) with non-white voters than Romney and McCain. Again, this is mostly the result of Democratic-leaning non-white voters staying home. Where Trump did significantly better that prior GOP candidates was with the prototypical GOP "base" (white/rural/male/moderate education). While the following number is as estimate, it's approximately correct based upon polling research. For example, if Romney received about 65% of a "typical GOP voter" demographic group in 2012, Trump received about 72% of that same demographic group in 2016.

I'm sure there will be more to learn from this election as researchers tease through their data.

No.  Adults having temper tantrums because their candidate did not win in a democratic election is not the status quo.  This is part of the new America which has been halted I hope.  In this country we have an election and  the country has a president for four years.  We voice our dissatisfaction by the vote.  It's a powerful thing as I believe you have just seen.  But colleges coddling students is nauseating to me.  The Millennials are convincing us that the vote age needs to to be moved to at least 21. This post was edited by Thriftymaid at November 12, 2016 3:20 PM MST

Just curious.
Over here in Australia, there is no such thing as a professional protester: not one gets paid a cent for any of their actions. It's all done by volunteer labour and donations for transport, supplies and advertising.
Is it different in the USA? And if so who pays them, how, and why? This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at November 13, 2016 12:25 PM MST

Yes we do.  We have the right to fight about this idea of yours as well.  We have the right to protest.  If you don't like it?  Well, vote for Trump.  This brings us back to Nazi Bush days when people were thrown in the clink for saying nasty Bush comments.  Yep.  Right here in Arizona. Land of the free as long as they think like you.

I wonder how those fur lined handcuffs you sport feel next to what is under them.  I wonder how you practice law when you are so blind?  Yes.  Now things are going to be RIGHT.  (snore).  My best friend thinks just like you, Thrifty.  Another impenetrable.  Not a deplorable by any means.  But totally impenetrable.

This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at November 13, 2016 12:29 PM MST

I think this is how Milleninals roll.   Whining crybabies when they don't get their way.   

It's what they've been taught their entire lives.

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@RandyD -- OK, now you're going off the deep end.

Substitute almost ANY group identifier for "Millenials" (e.g. Jews, Muslims, Mexicans, etc.) and the statement Thriftymaid made and YOU agreed with (which I didn't expect) would be OBVIOUSLY bigoted and offensive.

Get a grip, dude. This post was edited by Just Asking at November 12, 2016 12:20 PM MST

My grip is already got.
You've made it obvious that you differ in opinion. Your "grip" is not mine, mine is not yours. I know I won't convince you to see the issue my way, so I don't attempt to do so. Please don't assume that you would or will be able to get me to see the issue your way, to attempt it would be futile.

If you're truly a clear-thinking individual, you may subscribe to the same tenet that I do: it's ok to have differing points of view on the same issue without either of us assuming it means the other lacks intelligence.
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@Randy D -- No, this isn't just about a "difference of opinion"


And if I can't get you to see that such statements are bigotry and repudiate them, then you are apparently comfortable with your bigotry and are willing to engage your intellectual resources in defense of your bigotry. That makes you a bigot.

If you don't like being called a bigot, then don't make evidence-free negative stereotypical statements against Jews...er, Millenials.


P.S. RWAF = Right Wing Authoritarian F***tard. You can read more about them here or here.

You inserted those words based on your opinion that the concepts are interchangeable. Nice way to put words in other people's mouths. There is a vast difference between races/religions and generations. If you think it's appropriate that some people are exhibiting reactions akin to psychological disorders over losing an election, join them. I am of a different camp. I think they're being utterly ridiculous.
The same indignation you have SHOULD cover my right to opine differently than you do. I do not agree with your opinions, but I defend your right to have them.

You may continue with your tirade ad naseum if you so desire, and at the end of it, you will still think the way you do and I will still think the way I do. Como decimos en español, ¿qué vale la pena? Loosely translated, what's it worth? Chill with the Thought Police routine already.
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Old School, if you're going to rant, at least be truthful. I didn't substitute any words, YOU DID.  Now I expect you to be Adult enough to acknowledge and retract the mistake (or outright lie) that you posted.  Thank you in advance. 
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I do not know what RWAF means. 
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It's theirs to deal with now.  That's part of being an adult.  Get a grip is what I have to say to them.  OR stay in the street as the professional protestors arrive and turn the pity parties into riots complete with swat cops.  We had an election.  That's it.  For four years.  Then we can play again.

Randy, if I were you I would ignore Old School.  I do.  I don't think he can help it.  He brings race into everything.  I believe you know what that means. This post was edited by Thriftymaid at November 13, 2016 3:41 PM MST