Watch the video. Not a snap shot, not gif without the speech. https://youtu.be/5e5Dz2EvuOY?feature=shared (45 sec mark)
Musk took to the Capital One Arena stage in Washington to huge cheers, jumping and pumping his arms and shouting, "Yesssss".
"This was no ordinary victory. This was a fork in the road of human civilization," he said. "This one really mattered. Thank you for making it happen! Thank you."
Biting his bottom lip, he thumped his right hand over his heart, fingers spread wide, then extended his right arm out, emphatically, at an upward angle, palm down and fingers together. Then he turned and made the same hand gesture to the crowd behind him.
"My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured," he said as he finished the gesture. you.
You can sugar coat it any way you like - that's a Nazi salute. Maybe you need to do some research on Hitler's rise. Maybe you need to read about people who survived the death camps. Maybe then, you would have some understanding of what happened back then and what could happen again here. Then again, maybe you would be happy with that - until they came for you and yours.
This post was edited by Spunky at January 25, 2025 9:18 AM MST
I don't care what Macron does - I'm not French. Once again, there's a difference between Musk's full gesture and the other photos you showed of those merely raising their arms - not saluting. One can't support the Jewish people and excuse someone making a Nazi salute, not once but TWICE. Sorry - that doesn't fly with me.
So only care when they come for you? Since your not French....
Again ADL says it was not a NAZiI salute.
Macron did the Heart to You gesture. It is on video. Only difference is Elon is a Trump supporter and Macron is not.
This post was edited by my2cents at January 25, 2025 9:18 AM MST
Says I have to sign in to confirm I'm not a bot. Sorry.
Supporting Nazis doesn't make you one, but it shows that you condone what they believe and how they behave and that's almost as bad.
This post was edited by Spunky at January 27, 2025 8:56 AM MST
Even though I said and still say, we should give him the benefit ot the doubt, yes, that is a Nazi salute. Maybe it was accidental, maybe he was trying to slip something by us or send a signal. I don't know and neither does the ADL. Nor do the white supremacists who are celebrating the gesture. Only Musk knows.
What I find offensive ( and suspicious) are the attempts to paint similar gestures by other politicians as some kind of proof, that everybody does it. A Nazi salute is a specific gesture, starting by touching the chest and including the height and rigidity of the arm. Musk did everything except say Seig Heil.
Perhaps if Musk was not backing far right groups with neo- Nazi tie in Europe, this would not be so questionable.
Macron's gesture is similar, but without the same thrust and rigidity. But it does raise doubts about whether Musk was awkwardly trying to make a similar gesture. https://x.com/i/status/1882553556093571563
After some consideration and now knowing that Musk repeated the gesture, I now believe he deliberately made the Nazi salute. If you looked at the second link in my previous post, it is especially obvious. The question is why he did it. Possibly just to troll people and to see how far they would go to defend him. This is what tolitarian governments do. They get people to not believe what they with their own eyes. Now they have found out how far they can go.
All we want is for everyone to leave the kids alone. Do whatever you want in your home or to an extent in public with consenting ADULTS. But stay away from the children.
This post was edited by my2cents at January 26, 2025 4:10 PM MST
I agree with some of your posted thoughts and issues that can occur about people who are transgendered. And, as an adult male who is gay, I just wanted to add from where most of my thoughts occur about "Keep it all away from children."
I knew very young I was attracted to other boys and men. Yet, as a very young boy through young adulthood, I grew up with teachers and tons of adults whom all often talked about their opposite-sex partners/spouses. I even met many of these male-female couples as a young boy when big events happened at school and/or in public. I knew of no one who was outwardly gay (except, as a boy, even I knew Liberace was, ha). I did not even know there was a word for it. I just knew what my natural feelings and thoughts were.
Yet, since childhood, after seeing and being exposed to all the constant heterosexual straight lifestyle, and having heterosexual married parents (a male and a female), I still grew up gay.
My point: Just being exposed to things does not suddenly convert one to whatever.
And to your point -- then we all need to also consider keeping all that heterosexual married spouses stuff in the bedroom and out of the public eye. (That part is somewhat of a joke but I know I've certainly seen a lifetime of heterosexual lifestyles and people). Again, I understand from where you're coming -- but I come from another life-long perspective.
EDIT: Geez -- I am so wordy lately! Ha! :)
This post was edited by WelbyQuentin at January 27, 2025 2:15 AM MST
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