Discussion»Questions»Politics» Even Trump supporters recognize that he lies quite regularly. Do you mind a president who LIES?? Or, are you one who BELIEVES the lies??
Even Trump supporters recognize that he lies quite regularly. Do you mind a president who LIES?? Or, are you one who BELIEVES the lies??
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It's not one of his more serious lies, but coming in 46th out of 58 in electoral college votes, is ANYTHING but a landslide. Nonetheless, Trump looks into the camera and LIES to YOU, the voter.
The first thing Papa Bush did when he took office was to raise taxes. I'm not sure Obama knew how his health care plan was going to work out, but it really messed up a lot of people who already had insurance. Their premiums doubled and tripled. Some lost their doctors because they didn't want to have anything to do with that plan. It put a hardship on a lot of working families. My honest opinion is that a candidate will say whatever they think the people want to hear just so they will get elected. I take their campaign promises with a BIG grain of salt.
Trump's actual position is that he won by a landslide if all the election fraud is taken into account. The system pushed it as far as it possibly could and it still wasn't enough to stop the Trump train.
Whether you believe that significant vote fraud happened or not is irrelevant. That is his assertion and he has a perfect right to make it. If you wish to call him a liar like it's an objective fact, you must prove vote fraud didn't happen and prove Trump knew that. Since you can't prove these things, you should tone down your rhetoric.
This post was edited by Zeitgeist at December 24, 2016 2:49 PM MST
After some more thought, and a little research, I find that Hillary won in California by 4.2 million votes.. If you subtract the so called 2 million fraudulent votes, she still would have won all of California's electoral votes. It wouldn't have changed the electoral college vote one iota... Therefore, no matter what kind of math you use, Trump did NOT win the electoral vote by a landslide..
If you subtract that same 2 million votes from the popular vote, Hillary would still be ahead by about a million votes.
Again, no matter how you slice it, Trump LOST the popular vote, and barely won the electoral college vote.. It's NOT a landslide.. It's not CLOSE. Trump is simply a LIAR..
What you assert here is an opinion not fact. Don't know where you get the 2 million from. The true extent of election fraud is controversial. You are entitled to your view, but so is Trump.
Even if you're right about Trump not winning by a landslide because election fraud was not significant, that doesn't make Trump a liar. It just makes him wrong. Someone is only a liar if the assert what they know to be false. Even if he does know it to be false, it's just a face saving boast not a malicious lie. I couldn't give a damn.
The only thing that matters is that Trump won so western civilization now has a fighting chance for some kind of future.
This post was edited by Zeitgeist at December 25, 2016 6:24 AM MST
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