Spooky Action At A Distance?

Personally I think both were correct. Donne's "island" doesn't imply that all our actions affect other people although, of course, many of our actions carry a ripple effect and some of those ripples are larger than others.

I know nothing of quantum physics -- it's outside my field of knowledge -- but I do know something that you may not. Everybody has heard of the Pauli Principle but have you ever heard of the Pauli Effect? Wolfgang Pauli was a klutz. When he was in a laboratory equipment would get broken, experiments would fail -- apparently for no reason. He didn't even have to be doing the experiments himself; it was sufficient that he was present. 

Dozy that is wonderful, ty...
I had actually kinda heard of that, the Pauli Effect, although I forgot it was named for him...I learned it as typical of theoretical physicists, lab equipment spontaneously flying off and crashing around them...

I think the latest versions of the twin slit .. light as both wave and particle... Price that the observer has an effect ... Then of course there's Mr Schrödinger's cat to contend with!
I agree with Didge re John Donne ... We are interconnected whether we know it or not ... I once read that any two people on earth, be there an Eskimo and an aboriginal, are less than 50 th cousins removed and it can be proven.
I also think you may have mistaken chaos effect (the butterfly wings) with quantum mechanics .... They may be related and I may be wrong :)

Science is based on observations. Some modern theories have led away from that basis, so it is difficult to know whether you are hearing science or bullstuff. For example, astronomers say the sun is powered by fusion, but they have nothing more than a math model to support that. Fusion implies that the inside is hotter than the outside, and observations reveal that the reverse is true. If you point that out, they shout insults at you until you go away. This is not a healthy situation.

A lot of what is called science is nothing more than guessing. They have announced the discovery of water on Mars every time somebody gets married, farts, or dies, and still no water. They insist that dust storms are due to winds, but there isn't enough atmosphere on Mars to make a wind. They publish a movie of a dust devil with lightning bolts, but continue to deny that electric charge has any effect except in equipment specifically designed to use it. Ever hear of the Oort cloud? It was invented in 1938 by Ian Oort to fudge his data to agree with his theories, and now it is accepted as basic science. Even Isaac Newton fudged his data to agree with his theory of gravity.

Have you ever heard of "The Butterfly Effect"? I f you have then you know, given time, anything no matter how minor can change everything. If the universe is somewhat fluid not too unlike water how can anything operate within it without effecting current, density, water level, temperature etc.. on its environment and therefore effecting everything in it? We don't have the tools to measure what effect every object has on another but I tell you this. A pulsar emitting deadly radiation a million years ago would effect us now if it was a million light years away. When the event began we were not humans on Earth yet and so you see cause and effect separated only by time but still an effect. Particles may be linked to each other through subspace on some subatomic level. This post was edited by O-uknow at February 26, 2017 10:32 PM MST