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PutinTrump assures us that Syria's Assad did not use chemical weapons at any time. Of course we beleive everything PutinTrump says. Right?
PutinTrump is an honorable man. Always tells the truth. Never lies, deceives, misdirects. PutinTrump is a helluva guy. No lie. You don't believe me? Why?
I know he killed more people in office in 2 months than anyone else has, probably including Putin, but maybe not.
Trump Reaffirms His Intention To Order War Crimes, Then Backs Down [UPDATE] The GOP front-runner said Friday that he’d stick to legal means of fighting terrorism. By Michael McAuliff X
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WASHINGTON — It’s not often that people admit to an audience of millions that they intend to break the law, but Donald Trump insisted in Thursday night’s Republican presidential debate that he would force American soldiers to commit war crimes.
The Republican presidential front-runner has said before that he would order waterboarding and worse for terrorism suspects, and that he would kill the families of terrorists — acts that violate U.S. and international law.
His policies prompted nearly 100 Republican foreign policy experts to sign an open letter saying Trump’s stance was inexcusable.
But when asked how he would make the military carry out illegal orders to kill and torture people, Trump doubled down.
“They won’t refuse. They’re not going to refuse me. Believe me,” Trump said.
That prompted Fox News moderator Brett Baier to protest: “But they’re illegal.”
Trump ignored that distinction, and tried to justify his position when he pointed to atrocities by extremist groups, calling them “these animals over in the Middle East.”
He also stood by his intention to levy an extrajudicial death penalty on the families of suspected terrorists.
“They knew what was happening. The wife knew exactly what was happening,” Trump said.
He never addressed the issue of committing crimes. And neither did Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who was given the opportunity to rebut Trump. He merely accused the real estate tycoon of false machismo.
“I think the American people understand that yelling and cursing at people doesn’t make you a tough guy,” Cruz said.
UPDATE: 3 p.m. — The outrage expressed by many Republicans may have gotten through to Trump, albeit a month after he first staked his claim to illegal counterterrorism strategies.
In a statement to The Wall Street Journal Friday afternoon, Trump clarified that he would “use every legal power“ to stop terrorists.
“I do, however, understand that the United States is bound by laws and treaties and I will not order our military or other officials to violate those laws and will seek their advice on such matters,” he said. “I will not order a military officer to disobey the law. It is clear that as president I will be bound by laws just like all Americans.”
The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee found Trump’s latest disavowal unconvincing, and later on Friday called on him to explicitly reject torture and murder as tools of U.S. foreign policy.
“Although Donald Trump has now said that he would obey the law, he has yet to specifically disavow torture or killing the families of our enemies — both of which he has advocated in the past and both of which violate the Geneva Conventions and our values. He cannot have it both ways — will he abide by the laws of war and denounce these positions, or won’t he?” said Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) in a statement. “Let’s be clear — these are war crimes, no matter who is ordering them or carrying them out, whether a field commander, agency head, general, or the president,” Schiff added. “Even in the midst of a heated presidential campaign, it’s the responsibility of all who believe in the rule of law and human rights to condemn these dangerous remarks.”
Editor’s note: Donald Trump is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist, birther and bully who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at June 3, 2017 6:46 AM MDT
He is amazingly destructive isn't he? For a very fat very old very dim-witted malignant narcissist he has damaged/injured/harmed/hurt/destroyed more good and more good people in his cursed time in power than the more well-known well-hated/despised despotic dictators in history. Doofus Donny is a destructor. Point him in any direction and see how fast he destroys everything he touches. His worshippers adore him for that. They probably all put notches on their guns every time Doofus takes down another rule or institution or protocol or good thing. Maybe they have bets going among themselves. They certainly egg him on don't they? They LOVE what he does, what he says, whom he is and since he loves himself so very very very very much he hasn't turned on them. YET. He will. As soon as Putin tell him to do so. Thank you for your informative and thoughtful reply Shar! :)
Instead of judging everything by your obsession with personality politics, why not use logic and common sense?
Who stands to gain from the use of chemical weapons in Syria? Does Assad stand to gain from their use against civilians? Of course not! It simply brings down international condemnation and accomplishes no real military objective. It would be the most tactically stupid move EVER.
It is far more plausible that ISIS did it in order to blame Assad. They get to weaken Assad's standing on the world stage and hopefully trigger western interventionism against him. What ISIS wants more than anything is chaos that creates as many refugees as possible. Mass Islamic immigration into Europe is what they want. That's their Trojan horse. That's ISIS's real war.
Trump already air struck Assad over it and was criticized by Russia for doing so. You seem to think we have such short memories, you can present Trump and Putin as being united on the issue of Syria only a few weeks later.
This post was edited by Zeitgeist at June 3, 2017 11:07 AM MDT
Here's some personality politics for you. That is a word you just made up that makes NO sense. ZERO. You refuse to read anything that proves anyone's point. You just jump in here and start talking and talking. Don would be SO damned proud of you, even though he would never recognize you, since you are just like his whole constituency. Blindfolds are insisted upon before you can prove your "loyalty" that he demands.
This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at June 3, 2017 11:19 AM MDT
You apparently have an amazing gift for writing fiction---no creative writing classes would appear to be necessary. Have you considered a first or second career in the genre?
LOL! I have more education than you will ever have, you arrogant pseudo intellectual!
I read plenty. Though I also think for myself. You don't have a thought in your head that the establishment didn't place there. You're indoctrinated, not educated.
Also, Trump seems to have no particular "philosophy" that guides him. Since you use the term Zeitgeist as part of your user name, perhaps you give us some idea of what ideals and beliefs you espouse. Perhaps it might help us to see some logic in his decision making.
He has a Thesaurus. Ask him what a Thesaurus is. He probably knows that one by heart.
The Zeitgeist (spirit of the age or spirit of the time) is the dominant set of ideals and beliefs that motivate the actions of the members of a society in a particular period in time.
TOM: Here's what he thinks he means. Here is what it really means. (since we are all being accused of "personality politics" I will show him that there is more to me than just a pretty face. I happen to read people's comments and actually answer them. Just like Rosie does.
For example, the Zeitgeist of modernism motivated the creation of new forms in the fields of architecture, art, and fashion during much of the 20th century. Zeitgeist is a powerful force embedded in the individuals of a society.[1] The German word Zeitgeist, translated literally as "time mind" or "time spirit", is often attributed to the philosopher Georg Hegel, but he never actually used the word. In his works such as Lectures on the Philosophy of History, he uses the phrase der Geist seiner Zeit (the spirit of his time)—for example, "no man can surpass his own time, for the spirit of his time is also his own spirit."
Well, Tom, he may not realize how right he is. Trump is the symbol of the zeitgeist of the NEW AGE.
However, this huge personality anomaly he displays here -- it is not political. It is the lack of ability of seeing just what this SPIRiT of OUR TIME has transformed into at present.
I am not religious. I am spiritual. I believe in positive energy. I believe in negative energy. I also know that we can control and read energy.
Trump is all things negative about 'energy of the spirit'. He is dragging mankind into the same downward spiral of "we are elite, we have right on our side, we have money as proof of intellect and power, we have muscle in the form of goons in the White House taking power" that is his mantra. This is ANTI-Christ.
And, again, I am NOT religious. Christ in this instance refers to SPIRITUAL CONSCIOUSNESS. It is our birthright. We are all Christ Consciousness and to negate that by wanting more than your brother or sister because you think you are smarter, better, more entitled and just know how to grab that ring better than your neighbor, that is ANTI-CHRIST.
To seek to work WITH, ENABLE, INSPIRE, AID and BRING JOY? That IS CHRIST. Most people do not even comprehend or recognize this TRUTH. It is what makes life worth living. When you live in your true spirit, you don't need very much at all that you don't already have.
SO, ZIET, get REAL. The only reason you want to go away now, is because I have company that understands English, and you do not. You stand alone. But don't worry, there are plenty on here that make as little sense as you do so far as Trump's worth is concerned.
Oh and if you answer and do not bother to read this carefully? We are done. You have proven that your words against me are you looking into a mirror.
Other philosophers who were associated with such ideas include Herder and Spencer and Voltaire. The concept contrasts with the Great Man theory popularized by Thomas Carlyle, which sees history as the result of the actions of heroes and geniuses.
Hegel believed that art reflected, by its very nature, the culture of the time in which it is created. Culture and art are inextricable because an individual artist is a product of his or her time and therefore brings that culture to any given work of art. Furthermore, he believed that in the modern world it was impossible to produce classical art, which he believed represented a "free and ethical culture", which depended more on the philosophy of art and theory of art, rather than a reflection of the social construct, or Zeitgeist in which a given artist lives.
In the analysis of the arts and culture, the concept of a "spirit of the age" or zeitgeist may be problematic as a tool for analysis of periods which are socially or culturally fragmented and diverse.
This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at June 3, 2017 11:59 AM MDT
WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH 