Gun registration is not required in Nevada. Assault weapons are not illegal. If both statements are true does it thrill you/scare you? Why?

No and since you seem to be a firearms expert, why don't you tell us?  I can't see any reason any non-military or police officer should be able to own any firearm that shoots more than one or two bullets at a time.  Can you?

Here's an article I found, SS. Is Newsweek considered "fake news" this week or no? It's so hard to keep up. :)

https://www.newsweek.com/las-vegas-gun-laws-open-carry-concealed-weapon-machine-guns-all-legal-nevada-675310

I haven't been able to open this link.  Sorry. 

I found the same info on Fox News! We KNOW they're not fake news, right? ;)


https://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-are-machine-guns-rifles-legal-in-us

Thanks.  So, it would appear that anyone who legally possessed a machine gun prior to 1986 could sell it, which means that one would have to be able to prove it's provenance showing that the gun was legally purchased before 1986.  The problem with this amendment is that a legally owned machine gun could conceivably be sold ad infinitum unless I am misreading this and you could only sell it once after 1986, as the new purchaser would come under the 1986 amendment.  Would that be correct?

No, there are very very strict guidelines against these prior 1986 guns. You cannot just sell them. The gov has to approve the buyer, there are all kinds of medical and legal hurdles and money involved.  I guarantee if it was legally purchased they already know. Everything about this guy. They have already come out and said he had legal hand guns. These where not legal. 

You're right about a machine gun being able to be re-sold, and re-sold, and re-sold and . . .

But don't try to make it sound like it's easy. EVERY time a given machine gun is sold / transfered a US Treasury department tax stamp has to be "canceled" to make that transfer legal. That adds $200 to the cost of the weapon every time it changes hands. So for a new weapon (assuming one can find a new one made before 1986) that means that when the firearm transfers from the manufacturer to the jobber it's $200 in addition to the cost of the weapon. Then when the jobber sells it to the wholesaler it adds yet another $200. And then the jobber sells it to the retailer with yet another $200 added. So there's already a minimum of $600 extra on the price of the weapon by the time the first buyer gets it. And then unless he or she wants to sell at a loss that extra cost sticks with the weapon and is added to each time it sells, which may be twice for each transaction (transfers to the Class 3 ATF-licensed dealer and then again to the next customer). Gets real expensive real fast. And Treasury knows where every one of the legally-owned machine guns are located through that tax stamp process.

In addition, Treasury has to actually approve every transfer, a process that can take months for a private individual (no instant background check here). A friend that went through the process years ago for a shotgun pistol purchase told me that Treasury agents actually went out and interviewed friends, neighbors and family before giving the "thumbs up".

You and I both know that where there's a will there's a way.  Yes, someone buying that firearm LEGALLY will go through all that red tape.  I'd be interested to know whether this guy did that although the news just reported that his brother claimed he was a millionaire, so money would be no object.  Thank you for clarifying the process.  Much appreciated.

You're right, of course. It's clearly not difficult at all for people to acquire guns, period. This country is completely flooded with them, and it appears to only be getting worse. 

I find it ironic that Trump and his Republican congress repealed the Obama-era measure that helped to keep guns out of the hands of people with serious mental illness, and now rather than calling the shooter a terrorist, he's apparently claiming that he was mentally ill. SMH! 

I was under the impression that Bush let that measure expire, but I could be wrong.

This is what I was talking about. As usual, Snopes attempts to put a balanced spin on it (that's my opinion of Snopes, anyway).

https://www.snopes.com/congress-gun-legal-mental/

You know, another very sad aspect of this entire matter is what events like this tragedy do to people who live with mental illness every day. There are thousands who have to muster every morsel of courage and strength they have to leave their house to get groceries or attend doctor appointments because of anxiety and agoraphobia. I cannot believe how many people walk around toting guns on their hips now. They've become a fashion accessory!! Not only do I think it's ridiculous, it truly creates anxiety in me, and I'm relatively well, mentally. (emphasis on relatively, hehe). l

And that's exactly why gun control laws don't work and never will. If someone want's to acquire a weapon they can always get the machine tools and the raw materials to fabricate one on their own irrespective of the prevailing laws. It's not a big deal to do so.

You're right, but it is less likely that someone would have the knowledge to build their own machine gun when you can more easily purchase a gun and for $20 at Walmart, upgrade it with a gun stock to a machine gun. 

"Upgrade" a gun purchased at Walmart to a "machine gun" by adding a $20 stock? What a load of bullcrap! You really have no knowledge of firearms whatsoever, do you? 

I didn't say a gun purchased at Walmart, I said the stock could be purchased at Walmart. 

In my experience legalizing prostitution or accepting prostitution (that remains illegal) only lead to harming women and others. 

I think statistics show that legalization leads to more regulation and safety for all involved. As it is, most sex workers begin as children and are exploited and abused. In my opinion, resources should be focused on preventing this real crime, and imposing harsh punishment on those who commit it. 

Hi there m'dear. I read that he had many weapons with him in the room and when they went to his home they found more weapons and a few thousands rounds of ammunition. At last count 59 were dead and 527 injured but I have not checked up on the stats this morning. From the info released about the guy he does not fit the profile of a mass murderer. No money worries. No mental problems (that anyone knew about) Retired. Liked to gamble and was a fairly high roller.No terrorist ties. He was going through a divorce but living with someone. His family had no clue whatsoever that anything was wrong. The massacre at this level and the man he appeared to be just doesn't make any sense at all. Since he's dead we may never know the why. I agree with your observation.  Guns are sacrosanct apparently to many gun folks. How many weapons does anyone need to own to feel "safe"? Or manly?   SIGH. Thank you for your reply SA and Happy Tuesday! :)

It's very curious. I've not kept up with what "they" are saying about the man, but I wonder if he might have has some sort of organic brain disease (tumor, perhaps?). I've heard a bit of what you've said above, that this seems to be completely out of character and that his loved ones are shocked, no history of mental illness, etc, so that really is quite a puzzler. I know that he committed suicide, I'm guessing that it was a gunshot wound to the head, so there's a good chance that the postmortem exam will be inconclusive. (as they often are when athletes who have brain disease due to repeated concussions eventually commit suicide). 

To you and I, and to millions of others, this is all the more reason that we'd all be much, much safer living in a country where citizens aren't allowed to stockpile as many guns as their hearts' desire. Sigh, indeed! Have a fantastic Wednesday, Rosie. :)

This is what FOX NEWS has to say about it:

"Nevadans are allowed to purchase, possess or sell a machine gun as long as it is legally registered and complies with federal regulations, according to the lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association.

The NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action said the state does not require a permit to purchase or possess a rifle, shotgun or handgun."

Here's what the NRA-ILA says about machine guns in NV:   https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/nevada/

It is lawful to possess, purchase or sell a machine gun or silencer that is legally registered and possessed in compliance with all federal laws and regulations.

It is unlawful to possess, manufacture, or dispose of a rifle with a barrel under 16 inches in length, a shotgun with a barrel under 18 inches, or a rifle or shotgun with an overall length under 26 inches. Peace officers and persons licensed by the United States Department of the Treasury as importers, manufacturers, collectors or dealers are exempt.

I was wrong about machine guns in Nevada. They shouldn’t be legal anywhere unless you have a special federal license. By the way, I don’t watch Fox New or any cable news. It was my understanding fully automatic weapons were illegal to own.