Would an Hawaiian Jew greet you with 'Shaloha'?

You know your people came from all over da place. 

Nope.   When it is H?  Not cut and dry that way.  I liked that he did an before Hawaiian.  But both are correct I think. 

I have been known to be wrong, but I like to pretend.

Nope. I know this one.  It goes by vowel or consonant sound.  Since the H is pronounced in  Hawaii its a. Now in a word like hour or honest it's an.  Since the H sound is silent  in them and there is a vowel sound.  A and an is very cut and dry.

A Hawaiian man is an honest man.   I get to be the grammar Nazi foe once.

Actually, the jury is out on that. An aspirate isn't quite a consonant. It can depend on which side of the pond you're on.

Nope.

https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/591/01/

An sounds better and is easier to say and it is correct.

Nope, it's not. It also sounds funny. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at November 23, 2017 9:25 AM MST

  Glis, that's not entirely true. For instance , a user or a young user of a ukelele for that matter, gives examples of a utilization of the exceptions to that rule. 


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No I'm right and those are not  exceptions.  The rule is the sound, not the actual letter. Those all have a consonant sound.  A "y" sound.  "User" starts with a vowel, but the sound is that of a  consonant "Y".  Just as one would say "an honest man" since the H is silent and the word starts with a vowel O sound.
Those are proofs of the rule, not exceptions.

  Gee, that's funny: the letter 'u' isn't a vowel any more, nor does it sound like a vowel in any of the examples I used, examples, by the the way, that perfectly showed exceptions to the rule you made up, yet are examples that prove rather than disprove the incorrect rule. 
  Ok, when did we get transported to Bizarro Universe, and why wasn't I informed?

I never said U wasn't a vowel, but it doesn't always have a vowel sound.  All your examples are sound with a consonant "Y" sound "used" is pronounced yoosed.  You-kuh-lay-lee.    Your examples prove the rule.  Follow my link to Element and argue it with Cambridge University.  I did not make the rule up, if you're thst into grammar then you of all people should know that it IS the rule. Of course U is a vowel, but in those examples it does NOT have a vowel sound when spoken.

Again, it's if the word starts with a vowel in it's written form, it's how it is sounded.  A vowel sound such as in  honest  gets "an", a consonant sound, such as in used, gets  "a". Since Hawwaiian has a consonant sound it is "a".

  I would never write or say, "an Hawaiian".  That doesn't mean I'm the authority on it, I'm merely stating that it neither sounds correct to me to use "an", nor do I think others should do it. If they do, they are certainly entitled to it, but then again, there are potentially dozens of examples of grammar use that I find incorrect yet are used daily. 


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I have a shaloha for her.

  Lol. Here's another for you to drool over:



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We could, uh, drool over each other. This post was edited by Element 99 at November 23, 2017 8:45 PM MST

An Hawaiian is against the rule according to every source both American and British I can find. They all say exactly what I said.

  Then I believe that you and I agree on that point: "an Hawaiian" is incorrect. 
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