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Would an Hawaiian Jew greet you with 'Shaloha'?

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Posted - November 20, 2017

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  • 46117
    And what if I moved there and converted ?


    Shaloha from Sharonna
      November 20, 2017 5:12 PM MST
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  • 16197
    I've often wondered if it was an Australian Jew who came up with "Aussie Aussie Aussie! Oy oy oy!"
      November 20, 2017 5:33 PM MST
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  • 46117
    You know your people came from all over da place. 
      November 20, 2017 7:44 PM MST
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  • A Hawaiian, not an Hawaiian.
    An is only used when there is a vowel sound beginning the next word. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at November 23, 2017 9:24 AM MST
      November 20, 2017 8:41 PM MST
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  • 46117
    Nope.   When it is H?  Not cut and dry that way.  I liked that he did an before Hawaiian.  But both are correct I think. 

    I have been known to be wrong, but I like to pretend.
      November 20, 2017 8:43 PM MST
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  • Nope. I know this one.  It goes by vowel or consonant sound.  Since the H is pronounced in  Hawaii its a. Now in a word like hour or honest it's an.  Since the H sound is silent  in them and there is a vowel sound.  A and an is very cut and dry.

    A Hawaiian man is an honest man.   I get to be the grammar Nazi foe once.
      November 20, 2017 9:00 PM MST
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  • 16197
    Actually, the jury is out on that. An aspirate isn't quite a consonant. It can depend on which side of the pond you're on.
      November 21, 2017 5:37 AM MST
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  • Nope.

    https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/591/01/
      November 21, 2017 7:46 AM MST
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  • 44173
    An sounds better and is easier to say and it is correct.
      November 21, 2017 7:12 AM MST
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  • Nope, it's not. It also sounds funny. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at November 23, 2017 9:25 AM MST
      November 21, 2017 7:45 AM MST
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  • 52903


      Glis, that's not entirely true. For instance , a user or a young user of a ukelele for that matter, gives examples of a utilization of the exceptions to that rule. 


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      November 23, 2017 8:49 AM MST
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  • No I'm right and those are not  exceptions.  The rule is the sound, not the actual letter. Those all have a consonant sound.  A "y" sound.  "User" starts with a vowel, but the sound is that of a  consonant "Y".  Just as one would say "an honest man" since the H is silent and the word starts with a vowel O sound.
    Those are proofs of the rule, not exceptions.
      November 23, 2017 8:53 AM MST
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  • 52903


      Gee, that's funny: the letter 'u' isn't a vowel any more, nor does it sound like a vowel in any of the examples I used, examples, by the the way, that perfectly showed exceptions to the rule you made up, yet are examples that prove rather than disprove the incorrect rule. 
      Ok, when did we get transported to Bizarro Universe, and why wasn't I informed?

    :(
      November 23, 2017 9:02 AM MST
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  • I never said U wasn't a vowel, but it doesn't always have a vowel sound.  All your examples are sound with a consonant "Y" sound "used" is pronounced yoosed.  You-kuh-lay-lee.    Your examples prove the rule.  Follow my link to Element and argue it with Cambridge University.  I did not make the rule up, if you're thst into grammar then you of all people should know that it IS the rule. Of course U is a vowel, but in those examples it does NOT have a vowel sound when spoken.

    Again, it's if the word starts with a vowel in it's written form, it's how it is sounded.  A vowel sound such as in  honest  gets "an", a consonant sound, such as in used, gets  "a". Since Hawwaiian has a consonant sound it is "a".
      November 23, 2017 9:40 AM MST
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  • 52903


      I would never write or say, "an Hawaiian".  That doesn't mean I'm the authority on it, I'm merely stating that it neither sounds correct to me to use "an", nor do I think others should do it. If they do, they are certainly entitled to it, but then again, there are potentially dozens of examples of grammar use that I find incorrect yet are used daily. 


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      November 23, 2017 8:59 AM MST
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  • 44173
    I have a shaloha for her.
      November 23, 2017 9:21 AM MST
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  • 52903


      Lol. Here's another for you to drool over:



    ~
      November 23, 2017 9:48 AM MST
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  • 44173
    We could, uh, drool over each other. This post was edited by Element 99 at November 23, 2017 8:45 PM MST
      November 23, 2017 10:27 AM MST
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  • An Hawaiian is against the rule according to every source both American and British I can find. They all say exactly what I said.
      November 23, 2017 9:43 AM MST
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  • 52903


      Then I believe that you and I agree on that point: "an Hawaiian" is incorrect. 
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      November 23, 2017 8:47 PM MST
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  • 2217
    Nice portmanteau. 
      November 21, 2017 7:49 AM MST
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