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Have you ever felt yourself in a situation where belief in God would be helpful -if He existed?

Posted - January 26, 2018

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  • 13395
    I think just about anything could be suitable to make a placebo type healing effective -depending.. even if it might have been a remark someone made.
    My friend broke many bones and lost part of her leg from a serious fall and was told she would never walk again.  She believes that remark -by a doctor helped inspire her to heal well enough so now she gets around fine with her prosthetic leg.
      January 28, 2018 2:05 PM MST
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  • 2657
    Hello JA. Do you believe in the big bang or macro-evolution or that all creatures like an amoeba, a platypus, a blue whale and humans all have a common ancestor? Just Asking because most atheist that I have spoken to believe those things even though they actually have no proof of it but just evolving theories.

    It seems to me that it's been proven that life only comes from previous life. Even the simplest moving germ like cell or whatever created in a controlled laboratory from previously existing building blocks need a previously existing intelligent scientist to produce. From provable and observable reproduction, human kind only comes from human kind, bird kind only comes from bird kind, fish kind etc etc.
      January 28, 2018 7:40 PM MST
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  • 7939
    Evolution of a species doesn't happen quickly. It takes millions of years. We can see mutations within various life forms. For humans, we have things like skin color and eye color. We have various body shapes designed to suit the climates of our ancestors. We watch viruses mutate. There are new flu strains every year. HIV isn't one virus. It's many. Same with HPV. We've watched these things and can surmise where they came from. Those mutations are evolution. No, we can't watch evolution through current reproduction. It doesn't work that way. It's seemingly minor mutations over a long period of time, eventually resulting in a different species. We can see it if we look to the past: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dinosaurs-shrank-and-became-birds/ 

    That is proof. I can see it. It is tangible and real in front of my eyes. I don't have an opinion on what created the building blocks of life. There is no evidence to suggest what really caused it. Rather than grasp at straws for an explanation, be it a higher power or something else humans can't yet fathom, it's irrelevant to me. It just is, and I call that a good enough explanation until I have evidence. 
      January 28, 2018 8:13 PM MST
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  • 2657
    Interesting, I believe most of what you said as some call microevolution. Kinda how Jacob acquired great flocks when Laban tried to take advantage of him. Beyond the variations in kinds like in microevolution, I think that it takes a bit of faith to accept macroevolution. 
    “Microevolution” refers to small changes within a species, perhaps through selective breeding. 

    I appreciate your kindness in being respectful and tolerant of those like myself who believe differently than yourself. It says a lot about your character.

    If you ever want to dig a little deeper, here are some links to research that you may or may not be familiar with:

    https://answermug.com/forums/topic/11001/did-jesus-really-exist-what-do-both-modern-and-ancient-authori
    Did Jesus really exist? What do both modern and ancient authorities say?

    https://answermug.com/forums/topic/18166/how-did-life-begin
    How did life begin?

    https://answermug.com/forums/topic/41046/has-all-life-descended-from-a-common-ancestor
    Has All Life Descended From a Common Ancestor?

    https://answermug.com/forums/topic/42167/do-some-scientist-really-think-that-the-universe-should-not-exis
    Do some scientist really think that the universe should not exist? If so, why does it?


    https://answermug.com/forums/topic/46649/can-you-trust-the-bible-below-are-some-links-that-may-at-leas
    Can you trust the Bible?

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      January 28, 2018 8:36 PM MST
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  • 492
    It does not take any bit of faith to accept macroevolution. It does not take any bit of faith to accept microevolution. It only takes a bit of understanding the science behind it, which is not informed in the bible. We (humankind) have come to perceive our survival and evidence of life through man made science, than ancient concepts from the bible.
    But, if microevolution or macroevolution is indeed mentioned in the bible, please instruct me where to find it.
      January 29, 2018 5:02 AM MST
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  • 2657
    Thank you for your opinion.
    In my opinion, the Bible does inform you that by definition, macroevolution is not correct. Can you give an example of proven macroevolution? For example, did Darwin's finches ever produce anything besides birds?
    The term microevolution is not mentioned in the Bible but by definition, there are examples as mentioned in my previous comment.

    From our many previous conversations, when I have showed you something that you asked for in the Bible, you just insulted me (to put it kindly) and moved on to your next insult. I hope this is different. I also noticed all of your 'insults' in our last thread were removed.
      January 29, 2018 5:57 AM MST
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  • 492
    If you must bring up the past, then one insult usually leads to another and often deserves another. There is a reaction to an action. 
    You've always been good at making yourself  a victim under circumstances where you were just as aggressive; but let the good times roll. 
    Microevolution / Macroevolution are left wide open for debatable and problematic discussions leading to no solution, weather it's in the bible or not. They have never been popular topics, even in science, since they evoled themselves in the 1920's.
      January 29, 2018 3:45 PM MST
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  • 2657
    Funny thing is that most of our threads have been in the religion section. I am usually posting something positive about the Bible, you are usually there to try and tear me or my religion down. Honestly, if you no longer believe in religion, why do you keep showing up in threads about religion? Isn't it usually to tear down what I say?
      January 29, 2018 6:20 PM MST
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  • 492
    If "tearing down what you say", is your view of some one opposing your opinion (which is quite normal in many aspects of life), then life is filled with being torn down. If you feel victimized by being challenged, questioned or tested, then social media is not for you. I do not only hang out in the Religion forum. You'll also find me in the adultMug room and you'll find that I posted a question in the Politics Forum, early this morning. Please stop turning yourself into a victim. Accept my hug and a pat on the back and I hope you feel better after you burp.

    Now, get's get on with more fun filled entertainment. 
      January 29, 2018 8:02 PM MST
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  • 2657
    Sarcasm?

    "one insult usually leads to another and often deserves another"
    You will never see me in the adult section trying to tear you down or challenge you.

    EDIT: Never said you only hang out in the religion section, just that you don't believe in religion and most of our threads have been there, me to try to encourage Bible reading and you to try to tear me down, yes? This post was edited by texasescimo at January 29, 2018 8:29 PM MST
      January 29, 2018 8:27 PM MST
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  • 492
    What ever you say and you've convinced yourself with. Go have a nice day, Tex.
      January 30, 2018 4:46 AM MST
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  • 2657
    That implies that I am delusional and wrong with something I said in my previous response. If nothing else, it's a strange way of saying you agree with me, yes?
    Please enlighten me, what part of what I said is incorrect? 
      January 30, 2018 7:14 AM MST
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  • 492
    I have no interest in trying to evaluate your mental quality.
    What ever is "a strange way of saying I agree with you" or not, is your personal calculation and satisfaction of making yourself justifiably positive, in your mind, when making comments where there is no challenge or opposition.
    Why do you make yourself a victim as a result?  
      January 30, 2018 5:03 PM MST
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  • 2657
    I said nothing about being a victim. Are you making yourself a victim:
    "one insult usually leads to another and often deserves another"
      January 30, 2018 5:24 PM MST
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  • 492
    January 29.
    Quote [ Funny thing is that most of our threads have been in the religion section. I am usually posting something positive about the Bible,]
    Do you have any newer photos of Hitler's affiliation with the Catholic Church and negative comments about the religion to go with them?
      January 31, 2018 4:42 PM MST
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  • 2657
    You said that you are no longer Catholic. But then again, you went back and forth on answerbag, 'I'm a Catholic', "I don't believe in religion", 'I'm a Catholic', "I don't believe in religion", etc, depending on who you were talking to. 

    Most of our threads started out like this one, me saying something then you looking to start some krapola.

    When you have taken things out of context to say that JW's supported Hitler, I have posted photos of your Clergy marching with Hitler.

    As you said: "one insult usually leads to another and often deserves another"
    Are you making yourself a victim?
     
    EDIT: You could just go to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum's website if you want to see pictures and commentary with them. ushmm.org
    This post was edited by texasescimo at January 31, 2018 10:28 PM MST
      January 31, 2018 7:37 PM MST
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  • 492
    Having an insult to reply to another does not make one a victim.
    Posting photos and negative comments about a religion does not make you a positive person, having kind acts, convincing yourself that you are posting something positive about the Bible, as a result.
    Throwing conversations from the past, back at me, in a way to scale down my nature of opinion, does not make you a positive person.
    Never mind what my faith is. If you're just going to throw clips from discussions of the past, then you can not be trusted. 
    Continuously using the same quote I've made, repetitively in a fashion to insult me, does not make you a credible person to teach the bible to anyone. So, the answer is no, I am not making myself a victim because I've seen your derailment in many conversations to divert your senseless reactions.

    Any more questions to clear things up? You silly goose, you. lol
      February 1, 2018 4:22 AM MST
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  • 2657
    Quote: "Never mind what my faith is." Funny coming from you after all the JW bashing you have done.
    Remember that as you have a long history of bashing my religion way before you admitted to be Catholic in threads with other Catholics. Your white lies as you call them are still lies.

    Sorry but a leopard doesn't usually change his spots.
    The threads are gone but here are some of the comments:

    https://www.answerbag.com/a_view/11342735
    [Tex, 

    quote: I don't understand why you are concerned with the history of other religions like JW's
    I'm not concerned, I'm interested. If I wasn't interested, we wouldn't be having this conversation. You must be interested too....]
    by antibiotic on October 28th, 2011

    https://www.answerbag.com/a_view/11934897

    [I'm Catholic and I've never head anything like this before. It's a bunch of bullshit for bullshit artists to dip their paint brushes into.]
    By antibiotic on March 6th 2012. 

     [I have never lied. I only leave you confused about my affiliation with any religion.
    A white lie is a drop in a rain barrel,..]
    by antibiotic on July 10th, 2012
      February 1, 2018 6:54 AM MST
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  • 492
    Using garbage from the past to dishonor and humiliate me. You're getting and better at proving my point. 
     I don't feel victimized. I feel amused.
    All done spewing garbage, or you got more?
      February 1, 2018 7:52 PM MST
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  • 2657
    You trying to victimize yourself like you claim I do? You are coming off a bit peculiar from your usual self in this thread.
    You threw out there: "Do you have any newer photos of Hitler's affiliation with the Catholic Church and negative comments about the religion to go with them?" I reminded you of your taunts at me and my religious affiliation as I didn't just randomly post photos from the Holocaust Museum. Also showing your hypocrisy with comments like: "Never mind what my faith is" when you are the one that has taunted me and JW's for over 5 years.

    Do you find your comments in the past or your current hypocrisy to be humiliating? If you are no longer trying to belittle me and feel bad for your past taunts, it's not coming across as clearly as you think it is. Even your entry in to this thread came off a bit argumentative. Pretty sure that you know that microevolution or macroevolution are not mentioned by name in the Bible. Neither term had been invented yet and the concept of macroevolution hadn't been invented yet either.
      February 2, 2018 6:17 AM MST
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  • 492

    Never be a prisoner of your past. Become the architect of your future.
    Not found in the bible, but should be.
    Over 5 years? Yes, more like 8 years. Thank you for being a friend.

    This post was edited by antibiotic at February 3, 2018 9:34 AM MST
      February 2, 2018 6:14 PM MST
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  • 2657
    Yes, it's best not to dwell on the past but to learn from it as we should be hopeful we should also be cautious. There were a lot of recent threads where we went back and forth as well, most of which have been deleted. 
    (Isaiah 43:18; Prov 2:11; Mt 10:16-23) 

    If you are really wanting to have peaceful and reasonable conversations with me, I would like that. I love talking about God, Jesus and the Bible but don't like to see them attacked.
    Nothing wrong with asking sincere question. Even Habakkuk asked why things were as they were in his day. Often it's the baited questions from ones that already have their minds made up that get to me.
    (Habakkuk 1:2, 3) How long, O Jehovah, must I cry for help, but you do not hear? How long must I ask for help from violence, but you do not intervene?  3 Why do you make me witness wrongdoing? And why do you tolerate oppression? Why are destruction and violence before me? And why do quarreling and conflict abound?
      February 3, 2018 9:34 AM MST
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  • 46117
    How TELL ME.   HOW?  Can anyone be in any situation where God does not exist?   

    Please.   I am all ears.  The one's God created along with the sound and intellect to understand said sound.

    God is ALL.

    There is no NOT GOD.


      January 28, 2018 1:48 PM MST
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  • 13395
    What is your evidence that any supernatural force exists?  If any iota of supernatural forces be around that would not necessarily  mean that a God must exist. 
      January 28, 2018 2:21 PM MST
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  • 46117
    Because He told me that's how I know.  
      January 28, 2018 2:23 PM MST
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