"We are going to shock the country with morality". Said by a leader of the MARCH FOR OUR LIVES. I doubt adults care. Do you?.

And just when do you think you will first notice the future leaders in our society---when they arrive as adults in a "Mork from Ork" egg shaped spaceship?
 
And just for the record, can you start a lawnmower?

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You really believe what you just wrote? Honestly and ardently and irrefutably? If so you are less than I thought you were. My error. Thank you for your reply and the reveal. It explains a lot .

from a kid that was sitting in a class being shot up interviewing people, while he was riding his bike the 3 miles to school from home. i don't know if its just me having enough common sense to think that's a lie...or if i missed out on the high of tide pods.

You are equating "morality" exclusively with your own moral principles.

"Morality" also denotes a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.

I assume (correctly, I hope) that you are for preventing school shootings if a practical and acceptable way of preventing them can be found.

And be consistent---you have said that with Trump, only his policies matter, not his personal ethics with regard to marriage and his sex life.

So why not wait until we get to the policy issues these kids may elucidate---perhaps ones that have not been though of previously.

At any rate, they are approaching the legal voting age---and members of Congress must win the majority vote in their elections..

I think it is safe to say killing babies in the womb is immoral.
As far as these kids go, I have heard their policies:
Ban guns
NRA is a terrorist organization
Get rid of any politician who NRA supports. 

Yes, of course the politicians will have to vie for their votes as they become of age. That is nothing new children become eligiable to vote every year. It is also a known fact that young people do not vote in the same percentages as older voters. These maybe a little different....we will see. But these few we are seeing in the news are not the only children there. Others are there as well and they support the 2nd amendment...media ignores them. Would not use them for their "debate" on CNN cause the questions they wanted did not fit their narrative the media wanted to play out. 
But we will see over time now it all comes out.

"I think it is safe to say killing babies in the womb is immoral."

(I happen to agree with you in that I consider abortion to be immoral, but I do not claim moral superiority relative to others who come to different conclusions.)

"It is also a known fact that young people do not vote in the same percentages as older voters."  That's an historical observation about past events.  As prospective, it has much less weight.

Their policies are---among other things---intended to assure they continue to get the public's attention.  Intellectual reasoning is far less effective until both sides get past the campaign rhetoric.

I'll wait for the synthesis.

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You will go to any lengths to support your views...even to defaming children who have lived through what you never will. That is a low to which I never thought even you would go. My mistake. Thanks for your response..

Children who are protesting murder while accepting money from a group who murders more babies in the womb than have been killed by guns in decades. You don't see the how that uproots their claim of morality.

Maybe more would embrace the prolife cause if we saw more kindness and concern for the children that are already here.  Just a thought.  

I support a safety net for our working poor. So not so sure what you mean there. 
I do not have to agree with someone to care about them.

I guess I am really frustrated at some of the viciousness towards the kids that are protesting now.  Some are using the abortion debate to drown out their cause.  It just seems lame to me.  I think each cause is equally important to those that want to stand for them.  No one needs to mix them all up to detract imho.

The abortion issue is being brought up because they took money from Planned Parenthood.
They distracted their cause. They also claim they don't want to take guns while in the next breath attack the NRA as terrorists again they are hurting their cause. The NRA supports background checks in fact, they helped pass the background check law. And want to pass a law requiring all law enforcement and military to report crimes that would bar a person from getting a firearm. As of now I think it is like 18 states that do not report everything.....
But attacking the NRA and law abiding gun owners does not help their cause. Telling pro2nd amendment students they are trying "to protect them from others like them" does not help their cause unless the cause is to ban guns. 

Again I feel for the kids. What they went through was aweful. And knowing that the entire system failed them. From FBI, local family services, local police, right down to the school resource officer who did not go in and confront the shooter. Government failed....and they are not hollering about that failure. 

The NRA is getting flack for good reason.  How anyone thinks we need weapons of war in the hands of anyone that applies for them is beyond most reasonable people.  Most liberals do NOT want to ban rifles and handguns.  But that fact seems to get lost in alt right rhetoric right now.  

I doubt you care about where conservatives get THEIR money for THEIR issues.  Both sides are indeed funded by special interest groups.  The NRA is no exception.

I fully agree with your final paragraph.  Those kids were failed on so many levels.  

I understand most say they don't want to ban all guns. Just " weapons of war" the "AR15" etc. But the AR is not a weapon of war....the M16 is the weapon of war that is what our soldiers use. The AR15 is not the same. 

The difference between these and other rifles actually is the stock. Everything else is the same. The rounds per min, the speed, the velocity etc. 

The AR 15 mowed down 17 innocent kids within minutes.  Please don't give me the rifle vs. war weapon argument.  Most liberals do not want to ban a gun that an ordinary hunter would use.  A hunter isn't going to use a rifle that will pulverize an animal.  I know you know the difference and we have had this discussion before.  

The point is the AR15 does not pulverize the animal. It is the same thing. The stock is different...that is all. If the AR15 were going to pulverize the animal they would be legal to hunt large game with. In my state they are not. 
An ordinary hunter does use the AR15 to hunt. Small game. In fact, it is the most purchased firearm in the country. 

I want anything that makes a gun an automatic; you know...the kind of thing that only a soldier may use, banned from the general public.  Sorry.  I cannot see one good reason to own anything that would mow down a lot of people in a matter of seconds.  

I have good news for you Automatic firearms are banned have been for decades. And President Trump has ordered Jeff Sessions to write up the regulation that will ban the bumpstock (used in Vegas shooting). 

Sure and everything is wonderful now.  This is why anyone can order up guns like Nikolas Cruz did and shoot up a school.  I give up.  M2C, you can have the last word on this.  The more your side puts up these arguments, the more most reasonable people can see where the problem lays.  Go for it.  

Just say you want to ban the gun. But know why....know it is only because of the appearance of the gun. Not because it is more powerful (it is not), not because it can shoot more people in less time (it cannot)....just know it is because it looks scary.