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We are told GOD IS LOVE. Does GOD weep? He can't be FOR the perps and vics simultaneously. Does GOD hate perps?

One wonders what GOD thinks of Evangelicals who are in league with the devil (aka NO COLLUSION don). Can GOD be proud of them and hope they overcome? What about those who suffer because of such perps s NO COLLUSION don and all his adoring worshipping acolytes? How does GOD view them? He did say "the meek shall inherit the earth". What are the meek supposed to do in the meantime to survive as they await their inheritance?

Posted - May 22, 2018

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  • 1233
    God loves everyone because he, in his infinite wisdom, sees what they have it in themselves to be.

    He knows that envious, slothful, greedy, virtue signalling, leftist scum can choose to come out of their sin and repent. God endowed everyone with the free will to choose what they wish to be.

    God knows that conservatives sure aren't perfect either. Though at least conservatives try to be decent and stand for good values. The left are just dirty inside. This post was edited by Zeitgeist at May 22, 2018 5:17 PM MDT
      May 22, 2018 5:05 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    I hear Jesus laughing---He's always amused by those who forget the "judge not lest ye be judged" maxim.


      May 22, 2018 12:00 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    That's never what I think of at all tom. Ever. Here's what I always think about. "Love thy neighbor as thyself". "What you do to the least of mine you do to me". "The meek shall inherit the earth". "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven". Different strokes. Thank you for your reply! :)
      May 22, 2018 12:05 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    https://www.gotquestions.org/camel-eye-needle.html
      May 22, 2018 12:08 PM MDT
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  • 1233
    "Judge not lest ye be judged" is misinterpreted. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't express our opinions about whether a person's actions and beliefs are moral or immoral. It's simply cautioning against hypocrisy.

    https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details3.asp?ID=49897



    If you believe it's wrong to judge, you're a complete hypocrite. You're judging me for being judgemental. You're also selectively applying your principles since you're calling me judgemental while giving Rosie's demonisation of Trump a free pass.

    As for that camel and needle nonsense, it's completely irrelevant to the modern day. 2000 years ago significant wealth was achieved by the military conquest of land, slavery etc etc, with all the sinful acts of domination that entails. In the modern world it's possible to ethically generate wealth. This post was edited by Zeitgeist at May 22, 2018 5:18 PM MDT
      May 22, 2018 3:32 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Yes, I do judge what you do and say.  That is not the same as judging your responsibility or culpability for what you say.

    "Simple" as opposed to "consequent" ignorance is always a mitigating factor, so I don't judge you for saying it.

    But I do have an opinion as to whether "simple" or "consequent" is what you are operating from. 
      May 22, 2018 8:59 PM MDT
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  • 2657
    I think the sermon on the mount judging had to do with minor things among Christians? The Bible also speaks of righteous judgment. (John 7:23, 24) Also, the Elders judge some matters. (1 Corinthians 6:1-6) 

    WHY CONSIDER THE CONSCIENCES OF OTHERS?
    12 You may find yourself surprised at times by the degree to which Christian consciences differ. One person finds a practice or custom objectionable; another enjoys it and sees no basis for condemning it. In the matter of social drinking, for example, one finds delight in having a drink with a few friends as they relax together for an evening; another is troubled by the practice. Why are there such differences, and how should they affect our decisions?
    13 People differ for many reasons. Backgrounds vary greatly. Some, for instance, are acutely aware of a weakness that they have struggled with in the past—perhaps not always successfully. (1 Kings 8:38, 39) When it comes to alcohol, such individuals would likely feel particularly sensitive. If such a person comes to your home for a visit, his conscience may rightly move him to refuse the offer of a drink. Will you be offended? Will you insist? No. Whether you know his reasons or not—reasons that he may choose to keep private in this setting—brotherly love will move you to be considerate.
    14 The apostle Paul saw that consciences often varied widely among Christians in the first century. Back then, some Christians were troubled about certain foods that had been sacrificed to idols. (1 Corinthians 10:25) Paul’s conscience did not object to such foods that were subsequently sold at markets. To him, idols were nothing; idols could never own food that originated with Jehovah and belonged to Him anyway. Yet, Paul understood that others did not share his view of this matter. Some might have been deeply involved with idolatry before becoming Christians. To them, anything even formerly connected with idolatry was offensive. The solution?
    15 Paul said: “We, though, who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those not strong, and not to be pleasing ourselves. For even the Christ did not please himself.” (Romans 15:1, 3) Paul reasoned that we should put the needs of our brothers ahead of our own, just as Christ did. In a related discussion, Paul said that he would rather not eat meat at all than stumble a precious sheep for whom Christ had given his life.—Read 1 Corinthians 8:13; 10:23, 24, 31-33.
    16 On the other hand, those with a more restrictive conscience should not be critical of others, insisting that all view matters of conscience just as they do. (Read Romans 14:10.) Really, the conscience is best used as an internal judge, not as a license to judge others. Remember Jesus’ words: “Stop judging that you may not be judged.” (Matthew 7:1) All in the congregation want to avoid making an issue of personal matters of conscience. Instead, we seek ways to promote love and unity, building one another up, not tearing one another down.—Romans 14:19.
    (1 Kings 8:38, 39) whatever prayer, whatever request for favor may be made by any man or by all your people Israel (for each one knows the plague of his own heart) when they spread out their hands toward this house, 39 then may you hear from the heavens, your dwelling place, and may you forgive and take action; and reward each one according to all his ways, for you know his heart (you alone truly know every human heart),
    (1 Corinthians 10:25) Eat whatever is sold in a meat market, making no inquiry because of your conscience,
    (Romans 15:1) We, though, who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those not strong, and not to be pleasing ourselves.
    (Romans 15:3) For even the Christ did not please himself, but just as it is written: “The reproaches of those reproaching you have fallen upon me.”
    (1 Corinthians 8:13) That is why if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat at all, so that I will not make my brother stumble.
    (1 Corinthians 10:23, 24) All things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous. All things are lawful, but not all things build up. 24 Let each one keep seeking, not his own advantage, but that of the other person.
    (1 Corinthians 10:31-33) Therefore, whether you are eating or drinking or doing anything else, do all things for God’s glory. 32 Keep from becoming causes for stumbling to Jews as well as Greeks and to the congregation of God, 33 just as I am trying to please all people in all things, not seeking my own advantage, but that of the many, so that they may be saved.
    (Romans 14:10) But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you also look down on your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.
    (Matthew 7:1) “Stop judging that you may not be judged;
    (Romans 14:19) So, then, let us pursue the things making for peace and the things that build one another up.

      May 23, 2018 5:54 AM MDT
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  • I can only share my own take on this, but I feel that it's close to the mark. Jesus said, If you've seen the the son, you've seen the father.(paraphrased) I personally accept that Jesus is the only begotten of the Heavenly Father. Does God weep? Jesus wept at the tomb of Lazarus. I think that he wept out of love, grief and even anger over the sway that death had over mankind. I believe the attributes of God are many. He is love, mercy, blessing, healing, forgiveness, restoration, redemption and the giver of eternal life. He is also holy, righteous, just, wise, jealous and angry as appropriate. I think that there's one important consideration to remember when discussing the attributes of God. He operates in a state of perfection in all things. That's the one thing that man in his fallen state fails too often to grasp. If I have the ability to show mercy and to love in a miniscule way, how vast then is the sea of love and mercy in which God operates on behalf of His people?
      May 22, 2018 8:57 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    God was once seen in the stands cheering for the home team.  Later He was seen on the other side cheering for the visiting team.

    Turned out He was more for the players on the teams than for the teams themselves.
      May 22, 2018 12:05 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Just like any parent who has kids playing on different teams. You support all of them equally. HOWEVER we are not talking about sports here. We are talking about GOOD and EVIL. Some of God's children are evil. Are you telling me he supports them EQUALLY as they destroy his "good" children? I can't believe that is true. If I had a child who tried to murder my other child I would take sides. I could not possibly root for/support both the one who was the murderer and the one who was the victim. I know I am not God. I am simply a parent. I know that we can never know God. I stand by my statement. If God is angry with me for that He can take His best shot . I am always honest and that includes when I talk to  God which is daily. SIGH. Thank you for your reply. Another question cometh from this.
      May 22, 2018 12:10 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    I thought He died for both the "good" and the "bad" humans, regardless of their age.

    And do you really think God was "conflicted" or was "torn" between the prayers from the Allies and the Axis powers during the WWII?
      May 22, 2018 12:21 PM MDT
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  • 2657
    God didn't and can't die.
    (Habakkuk 1:12) Are you not from everlasting, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die. O Jehovah, you appointed them to execute judgment; My Rock, you established them for punishment.


    God is not supporting any modern day wars or nations sacrificing their young to the war god.
    (2 Corinthians 10:3, 4) For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to what we are in the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things.
    (1 Corinthians 10:20, 21) No; but I say that what the nations sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons. 21 You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.

    (Matthew 26:52) Then Jesus said to him: “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword.

    (Acts 10:34, 35) At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
      May 22, 2018 3:40 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Another nice try, Tex---

    God’s not dead — but God did die on Good Friday. This way of speaking about Jesus’ death is uncontroversial among Catholic and Orthodox Christians, and generally also in the historic Reformation churches (those in the Lutheran, Calvinist and Anglican traditions).

    It’s possible, of course, to try to avoid the implications of bible language by reinterpreting titles such as “Son of God,” “Lord” and so forth to refer to something other than divinity. Arian-type sects such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons do it all the time.

    Still, if we’re willing to follow the implications of the language, it’s pretty clear that it’s correct to say that Jesus is God. And it’s equally clear that the death of Jesus is the death of God in the flesh.

    One can try to dance around it — but only at the cost of dancing around the deity of Christ itself, by resorting to the same sorts of exegetical dodges that Arian-type sects utilize to deny Jesus’ divinity.

    And if you step back and think clearly, you'll realize that Mary IS the Mother of God.

      May 22, 2018 9:10 PM MDT
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  • 2657
    Typical non use of the scriptures as your reference tom. Claiming the argumentum ad populum fallacy is a fallacy, according to scripture. 

    (Matthew 7:13, 14) “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.
    (Luke 13:24) “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able.

    True Christians have always been considered a sect by the popular.
    (Acts 24:14) But I do admit this to you, that according to the way that they call a sect, in this manner I am rendering sacred service to the God of my forefathers, as I believe all the things set forth in the Law and written in the Prophets.
    (Acts 28:22) But we think it proper to hear from you what your thoughts are, for truly as regards this sect, we know that it is spoken against everywhere.”

    As far as Arius, you have more in common with him that JW's do.

    "Members of the Jehovah's Witnesses church are sometimes referred to as "modern-day Arians", usually by their opponents. However, the Witnesses differ from Arians by saying that the Son can fully know the Father (something Arius denied), and by their denial of personality to the Holy Spirit (Arius considered the Holy Spirit to be a person, whereas the Witnesses consider it to be God's active force). Arians worshipped Jesus, while the Witnesses do not."
    Source and further information:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arius

    https://www.modernreformation.org/mag_pdf/timeline.pdf 

    Arianism-Seeking to defend the uniqueness of the one, indivisible,
    and eternal God, Arius (ca. A.D. 250-ca. 336) denied that the Son is
    a co-eternal divine person, insisting that he was a creature, even if the
    "firstborn of creation." While affirming a threefold "Holy Triad," Arius
    denied that the three persons share the same divine essence, insisting
    that they were entirely distinct beings. In 325, the Council of Nicea
    expressly condemned Arius and affirmed that the Son and the Father
    were of the same substance (in Greek, homoousion)

    Your trinity has more support in the Book of Mormon that in the Bible.

    Bible:
    (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
    (1 Corinthians 8:5-6) For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.
    (1 Corinthians 11:3) But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God.


     Book Of Mormon:
    2 Nephi 31:21
    21 And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.
    Mormon 7:7
    7 And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.
    3 Nephi 11:27
    27 And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one.


    A few things God Almighty would not say or have said about him:
    (John 14:1) “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me.
    (John 14:28) You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.

    (John 6:38) for I have come down from heaven to do, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.
    (John 7:16) Jesus, in turn, answered them and said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me.
    (John 14:28) You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.
    (Matthew 28:18) Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
    (Luke 3:21, 22) Now when all the people were baptized, Jesus too was baptized. As he was praying, the heaven was opened up, 22 and the holy spirit in bodily form like a dove came down upon him, and a voice came out of heaven: “You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.”
    (Philippians 2:9) For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name,


    Does Almighty God have an Almightier God over him?
    (Romans 15:6) so that unitedly you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    (1 Corinthians 15:24, 25) Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet.
    (2 Corinthians 1:3) Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort,
    (1 Peter 1:3) Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
    (Revelation 1:6) and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.

    (John 20:17) Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”
    (Revelation 3:2) Become watchful, and strengthen the things remaining that were ready to die, for I have not found your works fully performed before my God.
    (Revelation 3:12) “‘The one who conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.
      May 23, 2018 6:20 AM MDT
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