Trump's base, R. Kelley's staff, Cosby's staff, and all the jerks who follow crooks.... WHY????? WHY??? WHY?? what is in it for YOU???

No.

This has nothing to do with women who like bad boys.  That is another subject entirely.

This is about people who don't think.   This is about staff and sycophants.  This is not about the victims who were lured into anything.

This is about the power and corruption of what it takes to commit such crimes.  R Kelley is in the news all over the place right now, because he has been getting away with molesting female children for decades and always has paid idiots to clean up after him.  Just like Trump's minions.  

Harvey Weinstein got men and women to do his bidding because he paid them to get unsuspecting starlets to his private quarters and raped them.  These were not women looking for bad anything.


And COSBY?   He drugged everyone, because LOOK at him.  Who would have sex with that?  Or Harvey, for that matter.   But Harvey just attacked, he didn't bother with date raping drugs.

SO, I put Trump's base into this because they are being paid in some currency I don't get.  Their payment is to be living in lala land and ignoring the fact that he is seriously destroying the planet with his ignorance and continual employment of like-minded crooks.

Well that was a great way to cut to a great point.


The payoff.  

The payoff is your soul.   So, what are you bargaining that for?  

I know you are not with me on the soul as I define it, so I am saying your integrity, your raw gut, your mind, your wits and your very reason for being.  That.  You are bargaining that.  And what is your payoff?  I know the idiots in the Administration figured out that if there is a dollar amount attached, any price is worth it.

After all, they are the crème-de-la-creme' of America now.  Lookie. 

But the uneducated base?   They are pretenders to THAT throne.  Look how many people are giddy because Trump put a few hundred in their tax return last year.  That is all it took for them to glaze into the future and think that if they just follow their leader, they will reach nirvana in the form of being RICH LIKE HIM.  

???

Thank you.   They want a payoff.  They are too stupid and deprived to even realize they are worth much more than what they are selling themselves for.

Exactly, a particular type of payoff, even if it is nothing more than the extension of blind partisanship.
I would use the term “Pyrrhic victory”. 

Let's start using Pyrrhic a lot more on this site.  It is even harder to spell than Diarrhea or Hemmhorage, which I just butchered.







This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at February 24, 2019 4:05 PM MST

These dolts may have gotten more money in their PAYCHECKS, but they are not necessarily getting more money in their tax refunds.  In fact, many of them are going to wind up paying rather than getting a refund and paying far more than they did last year.  The question then becomes, why would they follow so diligently someone who has screwed them royally?  You answered your own question when you referred to them as "uneducated."

My 2 keeps dancing up and down about her great tax return last year.   

Great point you give.

Let's see how big her tax return is this year.  

We will never know.  Because she will hit us with her Sara Huckabee response.

She will start with OH THAT'S BECAUSE.....

LOL ... But you do know we will have to ask anyway.

No. I don't know who you are confusing me with. But I did not get a refund last year at all. Higher income and children getting older. 


I am curious to see this year compared to last. i plan to input my last years info into this years just to compare. 
I will be happy as long my bill is less than last year.

And you are wrong...if my taxes go up. I will be complaining. This post was edited by my2cents at February 24, 2019 10:36 AM MST

It must have been the year before that.  It was you and I.  You told me you were very happy with your tax refund.  I am not nuts.  Tell me please I am not nuts.

Could be the year before, I was happy I got one, we thought we were going to have to pay in that year. 

In what way do you actually MEAN facts though?   Do you mean Guiliani's version of facts or reality's version?

trump.news is Donald Trump's own website. Trump facts.

trump dot news This post was edited by Kittigate at February 24, 2019 10:06 AM MST

This is real.  You are right.  There is no god.

It makes one wish there was a God. 

I am pretty sure Cosby did not become what he was because he was Liberal or Conservative or Evangelical or Hindu.

He was a pig and he had pigs protect him; pigs of all perspectives.  If the money was good and the job was cushy, they were (and are) onboard.

R. Kelley?  I'm pretty sure he has never rapped a thing.   He is not a rap artist.  Not that it has a thing to do with this.  

The question, my dear friend, who never gives up and tries to answer no matter what crap I fling at him,  the question is:  What makes the morons who support predators sell their souls.   What price makes the value of their own integrity so meaningless that they throw it away for the chance to follow a crook.  

Trump has broken the law and DEFIENTELY HAS  BEEN accused.  The machine that will grind slowly to the unsuspecting,  is coming at him like headlights on a deer.   He cannot go anywhere.  His own words will convict him and there is plenty of evidence if you shut off FOX and listen to anything and anyone else.

He has SAID that he DID NOT HAVE TO DECLARE A NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

LOL

HE SAID that PUTIN is very strong and powerful in his assessment that Russia has nothing to do with attacks on the USA, despite his own and OUR own National Intelligence operatives broadcasting globally the exact opposite.


He is a TRAITOR and a BETRAYER of this country.   

I don't need to see the OUTCOME.  The evidence is EVERYWHERE.


Cohen is guilty.  Trump is GUILTY of paying off PECKER of the NATIONAL ENQUIRER to shut up stories about his porn star hookups right before the election.  Cohen is going to jail.  Trump is not getting out of this stuff.

This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at February 24, 2019 9:12 AM MST

And that is nice if you happen to be the only person alive on the planet.  This happens to be a society where we all live together.  AND YES.  WE SHARE EVERY DAMNED THING.  I don't care if you conservatives want to grab all you can and say ME ME ME, you socialst pig you.  I am a socialist.  Because SO is everyone alive.  We cannot exist, we cannot live without each other.  So if you want your little plot of land to live and do as you please, that is fine.  It is NOT your land.  It is OUR land. The humans on this planet and you are a guest.  

If you live in an area where there are kids and you don't have any?  YOU NEED TO PAY TAXES ANYWAY.  These kids are members of your city and they will grow up to govern and live in the city you inhabit.  That is socialism.  You and they coexist and both have value.

You take medicare?  Socialism.  

You participate in a group of anything?  Socialism.  So in order to really do what we want, we need to surrender to the idea that we all live together and we do much more positive work if we co-exist and love one another and compromise and learn from each other.  And not everyone agrees to what you think is right.  

That is how free you really are. This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at February 24, 2019 4:09 PM MST

Being social is not the same thing as being "socialist".  I cannot live your life, can not even live my husband's life. I can only live my own.  But some people don't believe that and instead wish to tell me exactly how to live my life - what to do. what to think, how to act, what to believe. 

Yes in the greater scheme of things it is not my land forever.  You may wish to claim my land but we have a deed and legal proof of our ownership however brief and inconsequential it might be. Yes you can get the government to rob it from us but we will resist.  You will have to jail and perhaps kill a lot of us to achieve your aims. 

We pay our taxes but we also have something to say about how and why they are levied. 

Medicare is something I have not yet had to face and I am going to put it off as long as I can possibly do that.  When I stop working I will go on to my husband's company's policy.