Hello:
Well, Tio crossed the border. He's been here for 50 years. Would you throw him out?
excon
Good answer SS. Good to see you on here! :)
Hey there ex...
No, of course not.
As you describe Tio and his situation, he is not the problem when it comes to illegal immigration.
Because I believe Tio should be allowed to stay does not mean I believe his situation is typical and that his case is an argument for mass amnesty. Furthermore, a border IS a "do not cross" sign, what else could its purpose be. In Tios case, he wasn't invited by the government, he was invited by industry. Industry, as far as I am concerned doesn't have the right or legal basis to invite illegal immigration. So, instead of punishing Tio, I am more interested in punishing those industries that did invite him.
I am more interested in looking into all those who were invited by the government by way of H1-B visa's. when we talk about illegal immigration, there are more of those than there are "Tio's". They say 40% of those here illegally came here legally and overstayed their visa's. Since when did the S.T.E.M fields become "jobs American's won't do". Which is kind of a myth to begin with. When you look at those industries which are considered to be jobs "American's wont do", service, agriculture, construction etc., these jobs are still mostly held by American citizens. I am more concerned with who is getting those S.T.E.M. jobs than I am who is picking our lettuce, especially when some studies suggest that near 1/2 of all graduates here in the S.T.E.M. fields cant find jobs because we are importing them.
As you describe Tio, he has not committed any crime other than his border crossing. I am more interested in deporting those who have. I am more interested in stopping "Sanctuary" cities from their unconstitutional power grab from the federal governments role in immigration policy.
I am more interested in reform to our laws that make it easier for those who can prove their value to us to legally immigrate.
When it comes to what my priorities would be when it come solving the immigration problems, Tio would be last on the list.
My family came about 30 years ago but they came legally.
In their country there are literally millions of educated, skilled, qualified workers who would love to come and work in America and could contribute more than picking fruit.
But it is not so easy for them as walking across a border illegally and being allowed to stay for some reason.
I do not know the right answer but i know this is not fair. Those who sneak in know they are breaking the law. If my family snuck it they would be sent back instead of offered help. Change the law perhaps? The worst situation is to keep the law and ignore the law for some people but not for others. If someone is caught driving without a license, they are given a fine, rather than being told "since you have driven without license for 5 years, we will just give you a license."
Hello des:
Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and say that 20% of the undocumented here are criminal, that STILL leaves around 9 MILLION Tio's. Plus, sanctuary cities haven't grabbed anything... ICE can STILL do its duty.. All these cities are doing is NOT turning the undocumented in their system over to the feds. They have enough trouble enforcing their own laws. They DO, of course, turn the criminals over..
Other than that, we're not in disagreement. It's essentially the Gang of 8s solution.. You know, Marco Rubio's. The one that was turned down by the House simply BECAUSE it provided a path to legalization..
Personal regards,
excon
What about him staying and making his country better?
Good to see you again SA.
Missed you.
Fifty years...........................not the same deal today.
No I wouldn't. I support limited amnesty.
If I were a poor Mexican I'd be an illegal immigrant to the U.S.. I don't blame them for pursuing their interests. Though I don't feel guilty about pursuing my own interests either.
It's not in my interest to allow further slide into globalism and in the long term it's not in the interests of the immigrants either.
If a world government forms everything will go to sh*t and then there will be nowhere to emigrate to.