When all is said and done, what will you honestly be able to say you did for your fellow man?

True or not, we can still make other people’s journeys through this brief existence better through our own efforts.

I guess you don’t get that part: charity, goodwill, paying it forward, volunteerism.  This post was edited by Don Barzini at May 6, 2019 2:29 PM MDT

You help me.
:)

Just an interesting factoid: 

As an important step in becoming a doctor, medical students must take the Hippocratic Oath. And one of the promises within that oath is “first, do no harm” (or “primum non nocere,” the Latin translation from the original Greek.)

Right?

WRONG


https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/first-do-no-harm-201510138421

Of course.  It is also the Wiccan Rede.  And, I believe the prayer and intent of any prayers to call forth energy concerning white magic.

White magic always includes a healing.  So the Hippocratic oath fits nicely.  

  I just read your thread and I guess it is all a guess what Hippocrates said or meant by now.  I really don't care one whit.  When there is speculation that happened centuries ago, I just get bored.  I am not interested in researching who said what just to prove WHAT?  I mean really.  Unless you are some scholar in Greek history does it really matter any more?  I realize that it DOES matter in the grand scheme of who said what and how history really unfolded, but it is impossible to actually tell.  Unless, of course, you are some researcher who has money enough to explore the archives and have access to the exact language that was spoken and written, WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS?  

That was a long time ago.  


This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at May 6, 2019 2:21 PM MDT

You help men feel good about themselves. This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at May 6, 2019 8:23 AM MDT

I love that!
:)

Like breeds like, and hate breeds more hate, as dog breeds dog. We are directly influenced by the culture around us. If that culture is rife with generosity and goodwill, or conversely, hate and intolerance, so will it’s members tend to assert these things.  

Isn't that relative?  

Nope---Truth exists and is the proper object of study.

Is the earth flat or round?---while a small enough surface of a sphere (or oblate spheroid) can be essentially indistinguishable from a plane, the earth cannot not accurate be said to be both round and flat.

I believe truth is merely what we accept as so, not necessarily the same thing as fact. 

Certainly we must act on what we think to be so---what else can meaningfully determine our actions?

I would define truth as the "conformity of the mind to that which exists."

And it is accurate to say that the human intellect cannot be put in possession of its object by some exterior agent that takes it there. There is for us no knowledge except our own knowledge, no truth except self-acquired truth.

And for each of us, what we "accept as so" is indeed self-acquired knowledge about reality that we conclude to be true based on our experience and sense of how well our explanation "fits" reality.

That allows two people to be intelligent, well educated, logical and yet come to different conclusions about reality and explain them more than adequately to anyone interested---and yet still be "wrong" about whether something is true.


This post was edited by tom jackson at May 7, 2019 12:59 PM MDT

So we’ll call this one “allowing others to be idiots”. (?)

As I said. It's either that or I kill them.

That is the idea, at least to me. Even one life affected makes a difference.