Discussion»Statements»Rosie's Corner» Someone violates departmental policy but doesn't share classified/company info/break any laws/engage in criminal activity. Do you fire him?
I see you edited your previous one word answer and added a second sentence: "Especially when reason for all of those actions is to remove the President/Boss of the country."
Exposing the fundamental corruption of the man who was elected president (and) by the minority of the people is a textbook example of EPIKEIA.
And the president is assuredly not the "boss of the country"---it is intended that the president serve the American people.
Again....making something complicated to excuse the wrongness of an action. Does not condone the it. The ends does not justify the means. Comney do not follow the rules set out by his employer...not Trump....by the DOJ long before Trump. He should have been fired. Obama should have fired him in summer of 2016 again in Oct of 2016. (Maybe if he had in the summer Clinton would have won) Trump should have fired him day 1 on Jan 20, 2017.
I am surprised you were not able to follow the analogy through. Rosie's question put it in the concept of a company. Hence the use of the word boss in my reply. Too simple I guess....
This post was edited by my2cents at August 30, 2019 10:35 AM MDT
I just asked a GENERIC question about the ability of anyone at any time to go back and redo a question or answer. Not very comfy. At Answerbag we had a limit of 15 minutes I think. After that no changes ever! That is preferable to me than what we have now. Sheesh. FYI.
This post was edited by RosieG at September 1, 2019 3:29 AM MDT
On The Eleventh Hour last night, one of the guests said the IG report on Comey reminded him of the supervisor who came by the scene of a fiery crash from which the trooper on scene had saved the occupants from certain death---at which time the supervisor pointed out that the trooper was not wearing the mandatory hat which is part of his uniform..
Hahahahahahahahahaha. That is ironic laughter tom. Not because what you said was hilariously funny but because the intense focus on irrelevance by some always astonishes me and infuriates me. He was not wearing the mandatory hat. Had he cleaned his nails? Was there any spinach in his teeth? Thank you for pointing out one of things that drives me BONKERS! When people are incapable of dealing with an issue head on they divert misdirect obfuscate hoping you will buy the subterfuge and be so impressed with their brilliance you totally forget that they dodged you bigly. Those who focus on the tertiary regularly are all alike. They think they are smarter than you. They aren't. That is a tell of their lack of smarts. Do I know that with scientific certainty? No. It's just what I think for what it's worth. Sheesh. And the beat goes on! :)
Let's face it - Comey was fired because he was onto what Trump was doing and Comey thought that by releasing leaking that information. even though it was against policy, was the way to get a special prosecutor appointed to bring the issues into the light of day. The information leaked was not classified at the time. It was classified at a later date, so Comey, while he may have gone against policy, did not act illegally. You can bet that if this Department of Justice had sufficient proof that what Comey did was illegal, they would have crucified him.
That would be a pausable idea except that. Mueller said Trump was not up to what Comney and company claimed. The was no Russian collusion.
And it was the DOJ who recommended firing Comney for his actions. Not anyone appointed by Trump either.
This post was edited by my2cents at August 30, 2019 11:48 AM MDT
More likely I am confusing you by trying to be clever---In which of that person's many answers on here did the first sentence of that answer not "make sense" to you?
Exactly right L.!Precisely. He was a Whistleblower. Don't we have a law protecting them from retaliation of any kind? What is our duty? To an evil man or to our country. I would think the answer to that would be a SLAM-DUNK NO-BRAINER. That it isn't shocks me frankly. Thank you for your thoughtful reply m'dear and Happy Saturday! :)
There is a law protecting whistleblowers, but I'm not sure it covers national security leaks. I believe they claimed initially that he leaked classified info, but it wasn't classified at the time. It was classified later. What seems like a no-brainer to you and me doesn't appear that way to everyone. :)
Our hospital has a "just culture" unwritten policy. If someone violates a hospital policy, they are asked to explain why. Their explanation is taken into account when making the decision on whether or not to discipline/fire them. Sometimes, the policy needs to be changed ... or the person's actions were reasonable, even though they violated policy.
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