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Why is hearsay allowed for "whistleblowing" and "impeachment" but not in any court in America?

Posted - September 27, 2019

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  • 34283
    Thank you that was interesting. I was not aware of those exceptions. 
    Upon reading through I do not see any that would apply in this case.
      September 27, 2019 5:18 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Are you channeling Attorney General Barr for this answer?
      September 27, 2019 11:16 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Nope just reading the exceptions. 
      September 28, 2019 2:27 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Oh, I think this one might apply:  Reputation Concerning Character
      September 28, 2019 2:38 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Are you implying something about my character? 
      September 28, 2019 2:46 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    No---Trump's character.


      September 28, 2019 2:50 PM MDT
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  • 5391
    Is that really what you think is going on?
    How unsurprising.

    Is it really hearsay if it is corroborated by evidence?
    (Hint: This is why inquiries are launched) 

    Evidence- something that is submitted to affirm the proof or reality of a matter.
    I know this is a distant concept to you


    This post was edited by Don Barzini at September 28, 2019 3:47 PM MDT
      September 27, 2019 5:03 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Yes it is. 
    I would not be allowed to say in court: Bob told me that joe stole my credit from my purse. Even if the police found my credit card in Joe's wallet. 
      September 27, 2019 5:21 PM MDT
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  • 5391
    But “Joe” is still guilty; and thus is vulnerable to criminal or civil litigation.

    M2c, you badly misunderstand (or are purposely mis-construing) the intent of whistleblowing provisions. I suspect the same is true of impeachment proceedings. This post was edited by Don Barzini at September 28, 2019 2:42 PM MDT
      September 27, 2019 5:31 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Deflecting.....the topic is hearsay being allowed when it would not allowed in a courtroom.
      September 27, 2019 6:06 PM MDT
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  • 16791
    A Trumpican accusing someone ELSE of deflecting. Oh, the irony.

      September 27, 2019 6:15 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Simple Trump said nothing wrong. 
      September 27, 2019 9:33 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Simple Trump said nothing wrong. 
      September 27, 2019 9:33 PM MDT
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  • 16791
    Everything he says - or tweets - is wrong. Have a liddle' covfefe with your hamberders.
      September 27, 2019 10:06 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Covfefe was not coffee. 

    So you got nothing. 
      September 28, 2019 7:09 AM MDT
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  • 46117
    If we had a TOS for belligerence in the face of reason, you would not be allowed on here any longer.  
      September 29, 2019 3:13 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    And the misspelling is the LEAST of it.  Everything he says is a boldface lie.  Everything he says is shameless self-promotion.  He cannot tell the truth if his life depended on it.   Now his freedom depends on it, and he will be locked up because of his WRONG.  
      September 29, 2019 3:12 PM MDT
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  • 5391
    No, it isn’t a deflection, it is extrapolation. 

    Walt answered your question. Whistleblower reports only give impetus to the investigations that establish whether charges or impeachment are merited. 
    This is where you seem to run into the ditch.

    The Watergate scandal was uncovered by whistleblowers (though not an official title at that time). I wonder if even you can see any parallels there. This post was edited by Don Barzini at September 29, 2019 3:13 PM MDT
      September 27, 2019 6:19 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    I know he answered it. I gave him askers pick. 

    We need whitleblowers but there should be requirements for them. Starting with they should not be 2nd hand hearsay. And up until resently that was indeed a requirement. 

    This post was edited by my2cents at September 27, 2019 6:34 PM MDT
      September 27, 2019 6:34 PM MDT
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  • 5391
    It is what it is.
    When alleged hearsay foreshadows actual evidence that supports the claim, doesn’t matter who said it. 

    Joe is still guilty. 

    When you rise to public office, change the law. This post was edited by Don Barzini at September 28, 2019 2:43 PM MDT
      September 27, 2019 6:55 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Well, for sure, Joe is going to be a person of interest to the police..
      September 28, 2019 2:45 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    It was the rule up until Aug of 2019......this is the only whistleblower report that has ever been allowed with simple hearsay. 
      September 28, 2019 2:49 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    Well, God is suspected of working in mysterious ways.
      September 28, 2019 2:57 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Well trust me the ICIG is not God. 
      September 28, 2019 3:00 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    No, he would be the instrumental rather than the efficient cause in this case.
      September 28, 2019 3:05 PM MDT
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