Do the usual suspects on here believe President Trump is guilty until proven innocent?

I do.

I realise that the law works the other way in English speaking democracies - and I agree that it should.

However just because the law works that way, doesn't mean that I'm obliged to find everyone in the world innocent until proven guilty.
If I did that, every con-man around would have reduced me to begging on the streets.

The problem is one has to use observation and experience to make guesses about people we don't know well.

For me, there was enough evidence long before Trump was elected to show that he was impetuous, unpredictable, narcissistic, a liar, practised the old sexual double standard and believed the means justified the end.
Since then, I've come to see him in an even worse light: racist, lacking compassion for those who suffer misfortune, Machiavellian, poorly educated in most things except economics, and demanding absolute loyalty but giving none. None of these is a crime, of course. But these traits create the conditions for lack of respect for the responsibilities required of the POTUS. They are the characteristics of a person who would not hesitate to commit crimes if he thought they would help achieve his goals and that no one would find out. At times, he does things a president should not do as if he doesn't realise it, and probably he doesn't. But it is his job to know his job and to ask his advisors before acting. Instead, he lets them run around behind him doing their best to repair the damage. His own people are unanimous that the Whitehouse is in chaos. - Still not a crime.

But the evidence coming out now, in the lower house hearings, suggests that he bribed the Ukraine; privately through his personal lawyer he offered US funding for military aid in return for investigating the son of Joe Biden, his most serious rival among his political opposition. That would have to count as serious abuse of power, to use the tax-payers money to fund a personal vendetta.

I don't expect that the impeachment will work in the upper house because of the Republican majority there.
And this makes me wonder why the Democrats bothered to bring it in the lower house. Perhaps they believe it will tarnish Trump enough to lose him the next election.
Even so, I think the allegations are serious - and the evidence does need to be thoroughly examined, its truth proven.

If I'm wrong, I will not mind apologising to Trump's supporters.
I think the truth is far more important than my personal preferences. This post was edited by inky at November 16, 2019 9:56 PM MST

I don’t care...I had the day off today so logged in a few times looked around and left. It was all Trump,  all day, meh. Good news is I didn’t waste a day online and my house is sooooo clean.  :) 

Trump is guilty because Trump is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and you know it.  

In your guts you know he's nuts and if you don't you need a checkup yourself.

I think in many ways, Trump has proven himself guilty. He certainly acts every bit like a guilty man. A petulant 74 yr old child with a Twitter obsession, caught redhanded; crying foul. 
Why continuously impede the process if the actual truth will prove certain innocence? 

Of the current allegations in Congress, that conclusion remains to be seen. I’m an advocate of evidence; arguing the minutiae of the process does not defeat the evidence.
What evidence is there for the defense? 

Guilty or not, in Trump I see a profoundly despicable human being. 

This post was edited by Don Barzini at November 16, 2019 8:25 AM MST

Of course.  Some things never change. 

It is a waste of time and money. And if they send it to the Senate, it will waste a lot of the Dem Candidates for president's time as well.