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Do you have to LOVE a candidate to vote for him/her as your president? Isn't respect admiration enough? MUST IT BE LOVE?

Posted - June 27, 2020
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  • 10691

    Most People want a candidate they love.  That’s why when candidates run, they promise everyone everything ... even though they know quite well that they can’t deliver (and most never intend to). 

      June 27, 2020 1:43 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Have you ever voted for a prez candidate you loved Shuhak? The two I was most happy to vote in all the years of voting? JFK and Barack Obama. The others more or less ok with. The hardest time was ln 2016 cuz well Hillary wasn't my cuppa tea but I sure wan't gonna for the trump. I did toy with voting for the Green Party Candidate but decided I didn't want to waste my vote. So there ya go! Thank you for your reply! :)
      June 27, 2020 3:41 PM MDT
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  • 10691

    I don’t think I’ve ever “loved” a candidate.  I can’t say I really liked one either.  After they were elected, I found a few of them to be “ok”.   I vote on a person’s stance, not whether I like them or not.

    Take 2016.  Both Hillary and Trump were terrible choices.  Both were corrupt (the Clintons are almost as corrupt as the Kennedys’).   Both were self-seekers.  (did you notice how Hilary kept changing her tune depending on what group she was addressing?   When she addressed the wealthy, she was pro-wealth.  When she addressed the poor, she was anti-wealth.  When she addressed those who wanted Obamacare strengthened, she said she’d do it.  When she addressed those who liked it as it was she said she wouldn’t touch any of it.    Trump, on the other hand, was a smug, xenophobic bigot.  He played up to people just to get their praise.  It was quite evident he knew nothing about running a government, but if he said the right words, people would swoon at his feet (and he drank it up like water).

      June 27, 2020 4:30 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    People ALWAYS play to their audience Shuhak. You must know that. If a pol is in Peoria how he addresses that audience will not be the same as it will be if he is New York City or Beverly Hills or Long Island or Detroit. Comedians always play to the audience. If you don't they won't pay any attention to you. Personally I think those who go into politics are rarely the "best" intentioned folks. They are always playing it for what they will or hope to get out of it. I think that's natural TO  A POINT. The trump has far exceeded every possible limitation. So you ended up not really ADMIRING any president. Whom would you like to take a stab at it? I'm going to ask that question. Thank you for your thoughtful reply. It's darker than I would have wished but well that's how you see it and that is your right! :)
      June 29, 2020 2:49 AM MDT
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  • 2706
    Since when are love, respect, and admiration prerequisites for choosing a candidate? I was always told that policies are a must. We, as citizens of the United States of America, are given the right to vote when we turn 18. Unfortunately, there is a large number of people who do not do any research before voting.

    Some feel that their vote doesn't matter, so they dispense with fact-checking. Others vote for the candidate who their parents or close friends favor without looking into them. More still check unreliable or extremely biased sources to get their information. The end result is a nation that doesn't know what they want, or why.
      June 27, 2020 2:07 PM MDT
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  • 113301
    Nowhere in my question will you find the word "prerequisite". That is what you imputed to it. Why I have no idea. Thank you for your reply and Happy Saturday.
      June 27, 2020 3:42 PM MDT
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  • 2706
    You're correct, the word prerequisite wasn't in your question. However, you implied as much when you said...Isn't respect admiration enough? And the fact that you never mentioned policies was a dead giveaway.
      June 27, 2020 10:40 PM MDT
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  • 34633
    Policy. Policy is what counts. 
      June 27, 2020 6:28 PM MDT
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  • 16902
    "I'll employ my family and buddies over better qualified people, insult disabled veterans, destroy the environment, increase the debt, eliminate the pandemic commission and envy the hell out of Obama." Yep, terrific policy. This post was edited by Slartibartfast at June 28, 2020 6:36 AM MDT
      June 28, 2020 12:00 AM MDT
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  • 34633
    Do not put that in quotes as if to claim this is something actually said by President Trump because it is not. 

    Policy...Defend the unborn, cut my taxes. Defend my 2nd amendment right, Cut regulations, defend my border, keep sanctions on Russia and NOKO, fix our 'Free Trade" deals (aka send my job to China/Mexico deals), Don't get me into another Mid East war.  And so much more good policy. 
      June 28, 2020 4:42 AM MDT
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  • 16902
    On the contrary, sometimes there isn't a candidate I want to vote FOR, but sure as hell one I want to vote AGAINST. I'd vote for a hat rack if it stood against Scummo. It's another reason to prefer the Australian system of preferential voting - you're handed a ballot paper listing all of the candidates, and you number the boxes in order of preference. That way, if your preferred candidate doesn't get in, your vote still counts against your least wanted.
    That's one thing Biden has going for him - he's not Trump. Possibly the only thing he's got going for him, given how beige the man is.
      June 27, 2020 11:58 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    I'll take Beige over Orange any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
      June 28, 2020 6:37 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    I guess I've more often voted "against" a candidate than "for" one.  The trouble is that too many people actually believe that what the candidates tell them they're going to do can actually be done.  They forget that all power is not situate in the President.  Congressional approval is required, too.  The GOP is supposed to be the party of fiscal conservatism yet government spending has increased under that party with this president than under earlier ones.  Contrary to what my2cents has posted several times, not everyone got a tax cut.  Some of us paid more last year than in all the years we worked.  Now, with all the money that we have had to spend relating to Covid-19, the tax cuts will prove to put us further in debt.  The Wall, which was this huge policy platform Trump spouted about has only increased by three feet in four years and the SCOTUS has now ruled that the money that was taken from the military to pay for that was unconstitutional.  The bigger and better health care plan that was supposed to replace Obamacare is nowhere to be found and the families that have been separated at the border must be reunited and set free.  Immigration is in Congress' wheelhouse, not Trump's.  Companies who moved their manufacturing overseas are not bringing their businesses back to the U.S.  In fact, Trump's business are in China, but rather than lead by example, Trump has arranged for his daughter to receive more trademarks to continue manufacturing there.  Trump, by virtually every measure, has failed this country to a point where, if he were to get a second term, we would be at a complete disadvantage in the world.  I can't think of one westernized country, (and many other countries), that still look to the U.S. to lead on the world stage.
      June 28, 2020 6:54 AM MDT
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