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Do you value the gender you are more than the one you aren't or vice-versa? Why?

Posted - October 9, 2016
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  • 6988
    I am glad I am a guy. I will never wish to be a Caitlyn Jenner. I am glad my wife is a gal. She is content with being a gal. We had a male municipal judge in our town.  After he retired, he changed over into a 'Caitlyn Jenner' type. That was bizzare! 
      October 9, 2016 5:38 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    I am happy being a woman. I think being a man is just too tough. Men have to be brave and confident and strong and decisive and successful as well as understanding and sensitive and caring and accepting and modest...simultaneously! Too hard for me. I don't know how you guys do it frankly. Thank you for your reply bh and Happy Sunday! :)
      October 9, 2016 6:44 AM MDT
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  • 127

    I don't believe in gender. Gender is a social construct that was originally invented to create stereotypes for people who had one genital organ or the other, in order for the patriarchy to press its fist against women. Right now it solely acts as a vessel for those who wish to break the stereotype to find someone they can associate with. To acknowledge gender would be to acknowledge that these stereotypes are a thing, instead of living and letting be sans labels. I am biologically a women, I use female pronouns, but I'm not agender. Gender simply doesn't exist in my mind. I will use your pronouns (he/she/they/it, none of the weird ones though), and let you live how you want to live, but I do not regard gender as something that exists or should exist, as it implies that we should stereotype people and have everyone conform to a stereotype instead of letting them just be who they want to be sans labels. 

    If you're talking about my biological sex (different than gender), then yes. Aside from the whole "I bleed from my vagina once every month" bullshit, then yes, I'm content with being a woman. I want to break gender stereotypes and I want to be part of the 10% of mathematicians who are female. There needs to be more women in the STEM fields, as the "gender" dichotomy as it's called is extremely patriarchal. 

    That and having boobs is fun. 

      October 9, 2016 5:55 AM MDT
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  • 113301
    Very interesting and unexpected response. You feel very strongly about your position. Gender seems to be a bugaboo to you and I can only imagine that you have suffered in some way for it. I cannot know of what those sufferings consist. I completely disagree with thee however. It is a physical fact that there is more than one gender. Whether you accept it or not is your choice but your acceptance doesn't matter. It changes nothing. But being a male or female is NOT a stereotype. It is a physical fact. Unless one has had a gender-change operation or is a hermaphrodite. You think of it as a burden to you. I celebrate being a woman, a daughter, a mother, a wife, a sister, a female. You don't. I think I would not make it as a man. There are way too many demands made of them. They must be strong and  brave and decisive and confident while they are also being sensitive, understanding, empathetic and accepting. Too hard for me to be all of that with any degree of simultaneity. I do well as a woman. I would fail as a man.  Different strokes.   Thank you for your reply ISS and Happy Sunday.
      October 9, 2016 6:41 AM MDT
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  • 127
    I have not suffered from anything. It is simply my stance on it, simple as that. You are confusing biological sex with gender. Biological sex is a physical fact. I am not denying that. Gender is all in the mind. If you want different parts, go for it. That is a physical thing, and if you want it changed, change it. There's nothing wrong with that. This is why I mentioned gender and biological sex in two different contexts. 
      October 9, 2016 6:46 AM MDT
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  • 3934
    @ISS -- You may not be aware of the scientific evidence which suggests what you refer to as "gender" (typically called sexual identity or gender identity in the literature) is, in fact, strongly driven by genetics/biology.

    In other words, "gender" is NOT a social construct for most people. Their self-identity as "boy" or "girl" appears very early in life, long before their brains are capable of absorbing all the social constructs around gender, and self-identity tends to be nearly impervious to social pressure (hence, the emergence of people who seek sexual phenotype reassignment because they were "born in the wrong body").

    The science also suggests the genes which produce gender identity are NOT the same ones which produce sexual phenotype or sexual partner preference, which is why we end up with some people who do not display the most common scenario of gender self-identity matching gender phenotype and strongly heterosexual mating desires.

    And, yes, it is true that human societies have hung an enormous amount of cultural baggage on scientifically inaccurate definitions of "gender", much of which is no longer relevant in a nuclear-armed post-physical-labor world. But to claim "gender" is entirely a social construct is also inaccurate.
      October 9, 2016 7:09 AM MDT
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  • 127
    I don't think you get what I'm saying. Feeling more masculine or feminine is one thing that will deal with a hormonal imbalance, or other such qualities as the opposite sex. I as a scientist am well aware of the science behind such. However, gender as a social construct becomes a question of gender stereotypes, and how trans people simply switch their stereotype role to the opposite sex. And this is why I believe gender is bullshit--95% of gender politics assume that the stereotype exists in the first place. Not sure if I'm wording this correctly--it's close to my bedtime (even though it should be close to my waking time haha)
      October 9, 2016 7:16 AM MDT
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  • 3934
    @ISS -- Please note I respect your views and largely concur with them.

    But I think your statement, "Feeling more masculine or feminine is one thing that will deal with a hormonal imbalance, or other such qualities as the opposite sex..." indicates you are either not expressing yourself well, or don't completely understand the science.

    Consider Bruce Jenner (now Catilin). In every physiological sense,  Bruce Jenner was male. He had (so far as I know) full male equipment, and it's highly unlikely he would have competed as a male decathlete at the highest level with a hormonal imbalance. Yet his gender identity was female. No amount of social reward and reinforcement for being an uber-male overcame that sense of "female" indentity.

    Moreover, millions of parents will testify their attempts to provide  "genderless" or "gender-neutral" social cues to their children have fallen flat in the face of young boys engaging in stereotypically "boy" behaviors and young girls similarly adopting stereotypically "girl" habits.

    Again, I agree that human societies have hung a ton of social constructs (many of them horribly anachronistic) on the concept of gender, but that does not mean gender is entirely a social construct. It is also a biological reality in more than just the reproductive equipment sense.
      October 9, 2016 9:05 AM MDT
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  • 22891
    id rather be a girl since thats the only thing i know
      October 9, 2016 8:25 PM MDT
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