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Should a leader be allowed to freeze people's bank accounts without a court order?

Imagine the uproar if President Trump, during the riots of summer 2020:
1. Declared an emergency 
2. Used the police to break up the protests
3. Unilaterally froze the bank accounts of people who donated to BLM

What would people be saying? 

Posted - February 15

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  • 16555
    No.  Canada lost their democracy today.  Who is next?
      February 15, 2022 7:52 PM MST
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  • 29779
    I would bet Australia. 
      February 15, 2022 8:09 PM MST
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  • 15065
    We have an election pending, and we're getting our democracy BACK. Murdererdoch's stooge is on a hiding to nothing. Corrupt, moribund and tries to cover up rapes.
    Labor's Anthony Albanese is a man I know personally, and will be a brilliant PM.
      February 16, 2022 3:49 PM MST
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  • 29779
    I don't know anything about your politicians just some of what has happened with lockdowns etc.   And if that was done under a conservative in AU.....you all are already lost. Sorry.  This post was edited by my2cents at February 16, 2022 4:16 PM MST
      February 16, 2022 4:13 PM MST
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  • 15065
    A corrupt conservative government. One that has been promising to introduce a commission against corruption, and delivered nothing. One that has failed to investigate rape complaints against ministers, and failed to disclose the identity of major donors - including one who paid $1m towards the legal fees of the former AG.
      February 16, 2022 7:18 PM MST
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  • 29779
    Again... I do not know and really do not care enough to verify.  
    But I have seen the BS they have pulled because of SARS2. 
      February 17, 2022 10:16 AM MST
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  • 13395
    "No, really, we're totally fighting for Democracy"

    -MacLean's magazine.
      February 15, 2022 9:47 PM MST
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  • 29779
    Should Trudeau be able to seize people's bank accounts WITHOUT a court order?

    This post was edited by my2cents at February 16, 2022 10:11 AM MST
      February 16, 2022 4:56 AM MST
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  • 13395
    Under certain circumstances I think so.
      February 16, 2022 10:11 AM MST
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  • 29779
    I think that is the actions of a tyrant and a dictatorship.  
      February 16, 2022 3:40 PM MST
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  • 13395
    Appears to be a heavy handed action but doesn't mean I'll lose any assets.
      February 16, 2022 6:26 PM MST
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  • 6027
    Canada, from what I can tell, doesn't have the equivalent of the American Constitution's Fourth Amendment.

    Since the protestors do not have a "reasonable expectation of privacy" of their activities, they are not protected by Section 8 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    BC Civil Liberties Association article
      February 16, 2022 7:30 AM MST
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  • 29779
    They are going after people who did not protest but simply donated to the protesters.  So would the donors have an expectation of privacy? 

    From what I see Sec 8 has protections against illegal seizure of property without due process. 
    https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art8.html This post was edited by my2cents at February 16, 2022 9:18 AM MST
      February 16, 2022 8:44 AM MST
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  • 6027
    From what I understand in the BCCLA article ... "reasonable expectation of privacy" would not apply to the protestors, because their activity is taking place in public.  

    According to that article: "There is no protection under the Charter in circumstances where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy."

    Thus, there is no protection against the seizure of the bank accounts (or placing a hold on them).
      February 16, 2022 10:48 AM MST
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  • 29779
    I do not understand why property being seized without due process (court order) would have anything to do with expectation of privacy.   I see that for illegal search but not for seizing of property.
      February 16, 2022 3:39 PM MST
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  • 6027
    Doesn't make sense to me, either ... but that appears to be how Canada operates.
      February 17, 2022 7:09 AM MST
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  • 29779
    Glad I live in US.
      February 17, 2022 7:13 AM MST
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  • 19949
    I find it amusing that you equate a bunch of truckers protesting having to get vaccinated with a mob trying to overthrow the results of a lawful election and the peaceful transfer of power.  
      February 16, 2022 7:40 AM MST
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  • 29779
    I did not mention the election....

    I am talking  about Trudeau seizing people's bank accounts without a court order.
      February 16, 2022 8:32 AM MST
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  • 19949
    Then perhaps it would have been a good idea to mention that you were referring to Canada.
      February 16, 2022 9:08 AM MST
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  • 29779
    It should not be legal for any leader of any country to steal from their citizens because the disagree with policies of that leader.

    (Are you under the impression that Biden has stolen money from citizens who believe he cheated in the election? 
      February 16, 2022 9:12 AM MST
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  • 19949
    The money is not being stolen.  It's being frozen in those accounts.  

    Why would you think I'm under the impression Biden has stolen money from anyone?  That was your implication, not mine.
      February 16, 2022 10:21 AM MST
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  • 29779
    WITHOUT a court order.   That is illegal in the US. And It should be in any country. 

    (You are the you who thought the question was somehow about the Jan 6. My question specifically talks about a leader freezing protesters accounts.  I do not know how you came to that conclusion. But if my question was about the Jan 6 protesters having their accounts frozen that would have been by Biden.)
      February 16, 2022 3:36 PM MST
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  • 19949
    You seem to be trying to apply US laws to another country.  Canada can do whatever they want in Canada.
      February 17, 2022 8:05 AM MST
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