Will Melania Trump be the first foreign-born first lady?

He criticizes illegal immigration not immigration in general. 

Allegedly Mrs T worked when she didn't have a work permit of citizenship but yes of course it's illegal immigrants..erm oh but didn't he insult ALL Mexicans, etc by saying they bring rapists, crime and drugs into the country..and what happens if NO or very very few people are granted legal immigration.. 

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/illegal_aliens_murder_at_a_much_higher_rate_than_us_citizens_do.html

Interesting.. always happy to read stuff..  interesting too that it was the post scribe which clarified that T meant illegal aliens... hmm didn't we hear that T was banned from Twitter because his aides were afraid of all the comments he made which  alienated people?  Sounds like this might have been one of the clean up operations with that post sribe.. and I don't think that this was the only comment T made about immigrants.. and the immigrant and ethnic minorities sure didn't seem to want to vote for him.. soo one can't help thinking that they know more than humble old me.

He got a lot of the ethnic votes. Trump had almost as many black supporters as he did white supporters, they just didn't report that on the news. He also got a lot of Hispanic votes. I saw one of his interviews where he was talking about immigrants and criminals, he was referring to the illegal immigrants. He has said nothing negative about legal immigrants. 

Oh erm well ok.. that sure wasn't the picture that we saw.... blacks and hispanic people were shown to have voted more for Hilary..i guess you mean they were lying when they reported the statistics? I wonder why they would do that? I haven't heard every speech T has made.. but if someone uses the word immigrants it can be pretty hard to be sure or to even determine that he only means illegal ones if he doesn't use that specific word himself.. but ok then..

Minorities always vote Dem in majority. (Because the Dem play the race card so well)
But actually 30% of Latinos voted for Trump this is more than voted for Mitt Romney in 2012.  And 13% of male Black voted for Trump and 4% of females. 8% overall for Trump again more than Romney. 

More voted for Hilary tho .. but yes no one would say no minorities at all voted for Trump.. i guess we are saying that right or wrong Hilary seemed to be dogged by a lot of issues too.

What Trump was addressing was the fact that gangs (drugs) do come over the border.
As for the rapists comment that comes from a report that approx 80% of Mexican woman/girls are raped on their way to getting to US border.  As Trump said "someone is doing the raping" and those people are in Mexico. Again Trump did not say all illegals are rapists or criminals.

@m2c -- Gee, once again you're doing the RAWF F***ING HYPOCRITE thing. You just CAN"T HELP IT, can you?

Do you recall a few days ago when you were all over President Obama for his exact words and refused to allow any mitigation for context and further explanation? I do...

http://www.answermug.com/forums/topic/13820/pres-obama-tells-illegals-it-is-ok-for-them-to-vote-when-you-vo/view/post_id/104927

And now, when people are complaining about Trump's EXACT WORDS ("When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."), there you are to hand-wave and explain he didn't really mean EXACTLY what he said...;-D...

But, I guess anything in service of the cause of defeating TEH STOOPID EBIL LIBRUHL COMMIE DEMOCRAPS is A-OK, right? This post was edited by OldSchoolTheSKOSlives at November 11, 2016 3:55 PM MST

You left off the rest of the quote "And some, I assume, are good people."

Now if in the Obama interview please post the text of Pres Obama clarifiying that the he was only talking about American citizen voting.  It cannot be just saying citizens because of the text before where the lady asking the question says the illegals are CITIZENS because of whatever....Show me where he corrected her. He did not. He followed it up with "when you vote you are a citizen"

@m2c -- Hey, TRUMP SAID IT. I didn't "edit" anything. He SAID it.

And, yes, he did do the quick hand-wave of "and some, I assume are good people"  amidst multiple paragraphs disparaging immigrants, not only from Mexico, but elsewhere, and denigrating the competency of our border patrol/law enforcement services.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/06/16/trump_mexico_not_sending_us_their_best_criminals_drug_dealers_and_rapists_are_crossing_border.html

Thank you for furthter demonstrating your F***ING HYPOCRISY in this matter. When a good conservative "Real American" does X, (s)he gets the benefit of the doubt. When the Nig...er, Nazi Kenyan Marxist Muslim Indonesian Communist Terrorist does substantially the same thing, clearly he meant EVERY WORD of his evil statement...;-D...

I didn't expect you to back down and admit it (that's not what RAWFs do...;-D...), but every time you clearly engage in your hypocritical double-standards, you make it more and more obvious to everyone else.

This post was edited by OldSchoolTheSKOSlives at November 11, 2016 4:30 PM MST

I see you don't have anything to show Obama was not talking about illegals voting. 

And you don't have anything to show Trump didn't say illegal immigrants are drug dealers and rapists...;-D

You can protest all you want. But you won't be able to come up with a valid distinction that doesn't ultimatley boil down to "What Obama did was different because...IT WAS, DAMMIT!"...;-D..

This post was edited by OldSchoolTheSKOSlives at November 11, 2016 5:31 PM MST

The next sentence in his quote is some are good people.  That is what I call proof. 

Obama's next sentence was 'when you vote you are a citizen' again I call that proof. And then he went on to explain who voting would not cause you to be investigated.....

You think saying "and some, I assume, are good people" as an afterthought, makes saying the rest of that filth okay? 

Yes. Trump all the way.

So gangs and drugs don't come through the border? And up to 80% of women coming to the illegally into the US aren't being raped? 
It is sad stats but doesn't make it less true.

@m2c -- Yes, and when Obama talked to the Latina interviewer he spoke truth about voting rolls NOT being used to investigage people of Latino background to see if they or their families are illegal immigrants.

The stats you cite, if true, are indeed sad. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT TRUMP SAID.

Once again, here's the full quote...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/06/16/trump_mexico_not_sending_us_their_best_criminals_drug_dealers_and_rapists_are_crossing_border.html

You inventing things Trump said (or pulling them from something Trump may have said elsewhere) to defend what TRUMP ACTUALLY SAID THEN is EXACTLY what you criticized me for doing when I defended President Obama.

I know your ideological dedication won't allow you to acknowledge your F***ING HYPOCRISY (because Trump is Good and TEH STOOPID EBIL LIBRUHLZ IZ STOOPID...AND EBIL!),  but you should at least be aware it's not fooling anyone else.

When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/donald-trump-immigrants-raping-comments/index.html

Shows Trump explaining his statement about rapists. 

Now if you have any link to Obama clarifying his statement about illegals voting....feel free to post it.  Even if from talking to someone else. I have asked for it before you have yet to show anything. 

He strikes me as being pro-Europeans and white Westerners, but definitely against Mexicans, Hispanics, Muslims and Middle-Easterners irrespective of faith.
He's definitely against illegal immigration.

In Australia, our government has been committing crimes against illegal immigrants ("boat people") by locking them up in concentration camps off-shore. The conditions are appalling, including physical abuse and rape by guards, insufficient access to medical care and education, and illegal attempts to prevent information leaking out. The United Nations, Amnesty International, and many Australian citizens and lawyers are campaigning against it.

Most of these illegals have never had any access to the possibility of legal application. Most are from minority groups who have been severely persecuted in their country of origin; their governments deny them any proof of identity. Catch 22. So there has to be a better way.

The more I think about it - the more I think there is no fair way to determine who is suitable and who is not. I think the litmus test could be how they settle in and integrate - if they break the law, they receive the same treatment as anyone else.

Population density - how many people can the land support with the available water and food it can grow? And how fast can foreign people be absorbed without the problems of friction between unfamiliar customs and ethics? These things can be determined by research.

Mode of integration - how to create a system that prepares migrants to integrate well... The money spent would save money further down the track by preventing problems.