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A Trump experience from the UK perspective

I took my daughter to college this evening for their open evening.. we visited Politics, History, PE and Environmental Science .... ALL of them had displays and were talking about Trump.. Newspaper articles were everywhere.. they were all talking about the impact.. how are muslims in the states going to fare.. latinos... etc...   I was surprised that it was also the topic under discussion among students but then again when you think about it, it makes sense given Trumps attitude towards the environment and pulling out of climate change obligations.
I have to say sorry Trump fans.. i heard not one positive word said in favour of him..students, tutors, posters, newspaper articles all very much of the same opinion.. it's a bad move.. 

I have no proof but i think much of the rest of the world are having similar reactions.

Posted - November 10, 2016
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  • 3375
    I can only imagine what the rest of the world is thinking.  

    I have relatives in Canada that are truly French Canadian and have never lived in the US.  Yet they report to me how this is all over their news as well and they too have much the same opinion that this is not a positive outcome at all.

    Thanks for giving a perspective from the UK.  
      November 10, 2016 3:45 PM MST
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  • My grandfather was French Canadian.. but yea the comments like that it's hard to believe so many were so... silly as to have voted for such a man...
      November 10, 2016 3:49 PM MST
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  • 7939
    Several of my clients are in the UK and they've asked me about my opinion on the election results. I try to shy away from bringing politics into business, but every last one of them has expressed genuine concern over who the US just elected. I wasn't sure if they'd be laughing it off or worried, but they don't think he's stable and are afraid of the impact he'll have on global affairs. I realize I have a small sample group I'm pulling from, but our members here on AM who are not American seem to be echoing the sentiment. Nobody thought he'd get voted in and now the world is having a major "oh crap" moment.
      November 10, 2016 3:49 PM MST
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  • That's exactly it... I am genuinely afraid for Americans.. I worry about what this will ultimately do to them and their country.. I worry especially it will alienate America from the rest of the world.... I have many American friends.. and I have always had a soft spot for America..  my concerns for the world are secondary and lesser.. yes I do worry about the environment if the US pulls out of climate change agreements.. and I suppose more generally things like if, as I suspect Trump proves very bad for America and there is more recession.. it will eventually affect us too.. but those are not my main concerns...
     
      November 10, 2016 4:05 PM MST
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  • 2219
    It is likely that your contacts belong to a pro-Clinton demographic.
      November 10, 2016 5:35 PM MST
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  • 7939
    Perhaps. They're all well-educated. That would be the demographic who voted for Clinton here.
      November 10, 2016 6:44 PM MST
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  • 2327
    Well that's just the way the media portray him over there. And because the UK is quite a liberal place, and because you have to rely on predominately left-wing sources to feed you most of your information, that's the way you're going to be thinking of him. There will also be an impression in the UK that Obama was a great, likable president who did a good job. And, again, for the exact same reason, it's because he's a dem and they're pro democrat. 

    The thing is, if the UK people could vote on it, Clinton would be in and Trump wouldn't be. The thing is, is that America is ready for a change and voted for it. If you were here in the US, and not in the UK, you would see the huge support that he has here, and you would see that he's liked here by many. 
      November 10, 2016 5:09 PM MST
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  • 2219
    Yes it was the way he was portrayed by the media, however they were more establishment than left wing which is generally anti-establishment (as we understand the terms).

    The parallel with the EU referendum is that Labour were unable to mobilise the former industrial areas to favour the EU, similar to Clinton's failure to take the rust-bucket states. 

    The propaganda machine undoubtedly favoured Clinton, but how the actual UK people would have voted is speculation.
     This post was edited by Malizz at November 10, 2016 5:36 PM MST
      November 10, 2016 5:33 PM MST
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  • Lol ahh bless you .. no sorry we hate him here for no other reason that he's a nasty narcissistic illmannered person who spouts rubbish and evil.. You forget WE dont watch your news.. we dont need to.. so we dont have to listen to the utter hype .. my judgement and our judgement is based purely on the guy himself.. he spouts evil therefore we think he is evil.. he is intolerable to us spouting such ill mannered tripe and with such ire.. He speaks like an uneducated buffoon and therefore that's what we see..  So quite simply you are wrong about that...

    Sadly You are ill-informed i am afraid about our country.. we have a conservative government here..  that's right not left.. what you call liberal we call just being a decent human being and treating others fairly.. the opposite is, of course..... unpleasant vile abhorrent behaviour.. When you say all this accusatory that we are pro dem.. please DO remember we don't even KNOW what that means so how can we be for it????? We dont have that here.. you are basing this on some odd ideas truly..

    FWIW Obama didnt have a great relationship with UK and you truly cannot, really please try to be reasonable.. know what we would vote here..we  dont have candidates anything like yours.. its a very different set up here.. and one you clearly dont understand.. sorry about that.. 
    Bear in mind the popular vote there was Clinton for what its worht i am not pro clinton nor is the uk.. so again wrong.. sorry 
      November 16, 2016 8:23 AM MST
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  • I've heard that there was a groundswell wanting change.. I am also old enough to remember when your country voted for Obama for the same reasons.. Just remember not all change is good.. some decisions made in the heat of the moment as a reaction against something..turn round and bite us.. it's my belief that this is a decision that will hurt AMerica.. I happen to care about America and Americans..lets see if i am wrong or if i am right..personally I Hope i am wrong. .but just to say there is no need to start attacking my country just because we care 
      November 16, 2016 8:54 AM MST
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  • 46117
    Electing a moron is not the change we'd hoped for.   I don't know what is worse, having this imbecile running things or admitting how many imbeciles he represents that are actual voters.

    That is the true loss here.  That rude awakening.   The worse part is listening to these imps praise him to the sky over nothing at all and when thousands of people are protesting they are accused of being Hillary voters of all things. 

    No kidding.  Thousands of people wanted Hillary.  Millions.  So, of course, the opposition is in full force.  And there are a LOT of us.  We don't flinch at being called Hillary voters.  I can see why this would cause Trump voters major embarrassment when people accuse them of voting for Trump but we really do not care if we are outed. This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at November 16, 2016 8:54 AM MST
      November 16, 2016 8:28 AM MST
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  • 2219
    I am uk (Scottish actually).


    As far as I am concerned, the US establishment, like the Corrupt EU before it got a well deserved bloody nose. As with brexit, the propaganda machine was predicting the wrong result right up till when the decisive results come through. 

    With any luck at all, there will be less provocation of the Russian bear, and less liberal intolerance.

      November 10, 2016 5:15 PM MST
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  • 2219

    In UK colleges there is an oppressive climate of political correctness; even if anyone supported Trump they would be afraid to say so because they would be hounded out by the bullies. So much for academic freedom.   


    See the Spectator

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/stop-funding-hate-nasty-elitist-campaign-press-censorship/  
     

    This post was edited by Malizz at November 16, 2016 7:50 AM MST
      November 15, 2016 6:44 AM MST
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  • 46117
    I call that too embarrassed to admit being a moron.  You call it oppressive. 
      November 16, 2016 8:33 AM MST
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  • 2219
    The elite will never admit to being ovine morons; but it's not because they'd be embarrassed, it's because they're arrogant.
      November 16, 2016 8:52 AM MST
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  • Aww generalisation can be so misleading sometimes.. I work in a college.. freedom of speech is an absolute cornerstone here.. and all opinions are respected even if we don't agree. the fact is in all this time i have only ever heard one person from the UK say they support trump and think its a good idea...and erm bless him he was a couple of pallets short of a load..  People who work in education do tend to be well educated, (myself excepted of course lol ) and so another conclusion may be drawn. if people in colleges don't approve of trump..perhaps that has nothing to do with freedom of expression or liberalism.. but maybe more to do with being educated and intelligent :P  there's always two sides to the story.. Not sure what this had to do with colleges tho? I think the expression college in connection with US elections is entirely a different thing to college as an educational establishment.
      November 16, 2016 8:59 AM MST
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  • Re the investors trying to change editorial styles of papers like the Daily mail..this is unlikely to have any effect and fortunately we in the UK have way more freedom than most where we can have papers with entirely different views.. 
    as to the comment about colleges.. you bet we protect equality and diversity. is this a bad thing? NO.. we don't tolerate racism.. we don't tolerate sexism.. why? it's not cos we are namby pamby or elitist.. its cos its the right thing to do... why should a black student be made to feel less or be harassed because of his colour.. does his colour make him less intelligent? does it make him automatically not entitled to education? And you bet we have science clases were girls are encouraged ... why wouldn't we? Now what was it you were saying about elitist???
      November 16, 2016 9:06 AM MST
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