Similar to many other MAGAs, Trump can't discern the difference between "backing" and "recognizing."  His level of intellecltual comprehension is beyond limited which is why all those other intellectually limited MAGAs love him.

I figure Trump does know the difference between backing and recognizing. And he purposely used the word backing to make it sound like Canada was going to push for a Palestine state – maybe by giving them weapons or something like that. Cheers and happy weekend!

There is NO difference in this case.

A dictionary is your friend.

Recognize
"acknowledge the existence, validity, or legality of

Backing
"support or help"

To recognize relates to something that already exists.  There is no Palestinian state at this time.
To back something, is to assist or help in the creation of something.  

Canada is not saying it will assist or help in the creation of a Palestinian state.  Canada is saying that if a Palestinian state is created, it will acknowledge its existence, validity and/or legality.

It's unfortunate that you cannot see the difference in these two concepts.

No, Canada and others are not saying IF Palestine becomes a country they will recognize it.   They ARE recognizing it as a country.  That is a big difference.  

It is not a separate country.  They are saying that if it becomes one, they will recognize it, but keep arguing the point because you just absolutely, positively, cannot admit that you are wrong.  Don't bother responding, I've had enough of this conversation.

Of course they will recognize them as a country if Israel and Palestine make an agreement.  The whole world will, including the USA.  Canada and other countries are saying they will by Sept of 2025.  Do you believe there will be a 2 state agreement by Sept of 2025? 

No.  I don't believe there will be a two-state solution by September 2025.

Yet Canada and others are planning to recognize Palestine....

Your post that Canada's "recognition is contingent upon the Palestinian Authority committing to key reforms, including holding general elections in 2026 without Hamas's participation, demilitarizing the future state, and undertaking governance reforms." My OPINION is that there will not be a two-state solution by September 2025 because Hamas will not agree to the above terms.  What else do you want to argue about?  


This post was edited by Spunky at August 8, 2025 10:56 AM MDT

Do you think Canada will stick to that or will they go ahead and recognize them regardless? (We know the PA will not do the stipulations)

I don't know what it takes for the world to consider a territory an independnt country.  I would imagine that if a majority of countries recognize it as a separate state, Canadw will as well.

It takes the major countries to recognize them at the UN.  The only reason Palestine is not a country is because USA had veto power. And the US supports Israel. 

I don't see anything that says the UN has anything to do with creating a two-state solution.  It would be between Israel and Palestine to determine borders, etc.  Palestine has rejected a two-state solution five time in the past.

https://lawandsocietymagazine.com/how-palestine-rejected-offer-to-have-its-own-state-5-times-in-the-past/ This post was edited by Spunky at August 11, 2025 9:55 AM MDT

It is about declaring yourself independent and the major countries agreeing. ie, when Israel declared their independence, USA Pres Truman recognized them immediately.  Some others did not and instead declared war. They lost badly, of course.  And then the world agreed, yes they are an independent country. 

Yes, if the Palestinian people really wanted peace they could have had it decades ago. All they had to do is agree not to attack Israel.   It has been offered over and over. 
Israel should just take it over and be done with it.  They are too nice about it,  IMO.  Being nice just drags it out and lets the media lie about them. This post was edited by my2cents at August 11, 2025 12:13 PM MDT

From whom did Israel declare its independence? 

Technically the British Mandate was still in effect but was slated to expire the next day. I would say independence from the Arabs in the region, who to this day say Israel has no right to exist. 

Israel was never under Arab rule, so they couldn't have declared themselves independent from the Arabs.

They did not declare themselves independent "from" anyone.  They simply declared themselves an independent country.  And then Pres Truman recognized them as such.   And they defeated those who challenged them in the war.   

I guess your wording "I would say independence from the Arabs in the region," confused me.  

Israel didn't "declare their independence", the Jewish people were gifted territory by Britain who had just driven the Germans and Italians out and thus had administrative control over Transjordan in the immediate aftermath of the Second World War. The Allies were guilted into it having done nothing to stop Hitler's inhumane treatment of Jewish people which started several years before the War. That after Britain had reneged on an agreement struck with Chaim Weizmann in the FIRST World War when Britain wrested control over the region from the Turks. Transjordan was a fustercluck that was never going to work. 
One would think that after being the victims of one of the worst genocides in history, the Jewish folks above all others would hesitate to perpetrate a genocide themselves. But that's what is happening in Gaza.

Modern history. Study it.

Thank you!

There is nothing I said that is not accurate
 I just did not go back into the full history.  I started the expiration of the Mandate.  (As the topic was how does a country become a country) Then Israel DECLARED themselves an INDEPENDENT sovereign country.  
It is even referred to as their independence day.   And the Jewish Virtual Library refers to a "first draft of the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE...."