Does Trump think this will make Heaven great again?

The Bible says salvation is available to ALL who call upon the name of Lord. 

True.  But it also says ...


"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur." - Revelation 21:8

"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God." - Galatians 5:19-21


While I'm not his (or anyone else's) "eternal" judge (I cannot judge the heart), I can judge a person's actions. 

The Bible also say’s Thou shalt not cast stones. In his e-mail about trying to get into Heaven he cast a stone at Hillary by calling her crooked. Cheers!

Technically, Jesus said that to the Jews standing around the adulterous woman (they were not only condemning her, while not even bringing the the man who laid with her to be punished as well (as is commanded in the Mosaic Law, but they were also trying to trap Jesus).  Thus it's not a "blanket" command.
Furthermore, I am NOT condemning trump (or anyone else).  I am simply stating that people who do evil deeds (and persist in doing them) will not go to heaven.  Since God said it first (in His Word), technically its Him saying it, not me.  I'm simply repeating His words.

No, we are not even to judge a person's actions.  We can discern if a person is someone we should trust/be around etc. BUT we cannot judge because we do not know the other person's situations nor their heart. 

Judge not least we be judged, with the same measure we used. 

We all have fallen short and all have lied, all have felt jealousy,  envy, many have been drunk, or used drugs (witchcraft), had sex outside of marriage  etc.   This is why Jesus/Yeshua came so that whomsoever will call upon the Name of Lord maybe saved.  He did not even come to judge, and we certainly are not worthy to judge. This post was edited by my2cents at September 2, 2025 5:41 AM MDT

Keep reading in the same book/chapter of the scripture you quoted to me.  Many people love to quote only what you did, as it gives them an out (as  in "don't tell me what to do, you're judging").  That's called hypocritical judging.  Read on down through verses 15-20; then tell me, how is a person to discern false prophets if that person doesn't judge what the teacher is teaching?  Thus, we are supposed to judge (meaning to form an opinion or conclusion).  To not do so would be foolish.  What we're not supposed todo is judge someone's heart (intentions).  The verse: "Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them" (Mat. 7:20) is telling us we have to judge.  If not, how can we obey Jesus' teaching in Matthew 18:15-17?  It requires judgement to know if someone is sinning.  

Yes, no one is righteous.  Yes, anyone who "calls on the Name of the Lord will be saved", but not everyone wants to.  Simply saying "Lord, Lord" (e.g. invoking the name of Jesus or God) is NOT calling on the Name of the Lord.  Again, go back to Mathew 7 -  “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Mat 7:21)


This post was edited by Shuhak at September 2, 2025 8:57 AM MDT

Discernment not judgement...they are not the same.

Of course, "Calling upon the Name of the Lord" is not simply using the verbal words.  It is about the heart and the love that we feel for God. It is that love that will change our sinful behaviors. And none of us have arrived at the perfection of Yeshua. We all have more to work towards. 
It is not the judgement of others or even the discernment of others that causes that change.

How can you "discern if a person is someone we should trust/be around etc." if you don't make that judgement (the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions) by their words or actions?  Does it just come to you by osmosis?

It is a fine line, but one one makes a call as to a person's worth and the other does not. 

The e-mail said – I defeated crooked Hillary in 2016 and God spared me from an assassination attempt – sure sounds like it was from Trump. The e-mail also said something about him being at the bottom of the Totem pole – which also sounds like Trump because he has the lowest approval rating polls of any president in US modern history. Cheers!

This post was edited by Nanoose at September 1, 2025 11:09 AM MDT

This post was edited by Jane S at September 1, 2025 9:40 AM MDT

If as Nanoose says it is from a Super Pac...it is not owned by Trump. Super Pacs are not owned nor controlled by the candidates.  

So if it is "from Trump" then it is not from any Super Pac.  And if it is "from a Super Pac" then it is not from Trump.  

That is how the rules work. This post was edited by my2cents at September 1, 2025 6:37 PM MDT

Tell someone who cares.

I believe I did.   

You did? Who? It sure wasn't me . All I did was provide the original email to Nanoose without commentary. 

Cared enough to post it....and then comment further.   
So as I said I believe I did.   (I posted it to more than one if you notice)

Super Pacs are not owned nor controlled by the candidates.   So it is one or the other.

As a Canadian, Nanoose may not know the difference between a leadership PAC and a SuperPAC, but I'm sure you do. Correcting his terminology would have been more relevant than your comments. This post was edited by Jane S at September 2, 2025 11:05 AM MDT

His claim is that Trump sent this email....he did not. That is more than just an incorrect terminology. 

I guess I was wrong. You don't seem to know what a leadership PAC  is.

So let me see if I got this straight.

Trump’s supper pack uses Trump’s words and praises – his over use of exclamation marks and all caps. 
And I’m supposed to believe Trump had nothing to do with the e-mail and he won’t get a large cut of the donations. For all we know Trump sent them a draft of what the e-mail should say. The crust of my question is should Trump and or his super pack use religion to mooch for campaign donations. Cheers!

This post was edited by Nanoose at September 2, 2025 4:56 PM MDT