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Another political assassination. Can people just stop killing people over political disagreements?

This one killed Charlie Kirk. 

Posted - September 10

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  • 35647
    That is no call for violence. 

    That is a call that the violence must stop. And we will stand up to it.   
    A large group of people who celebrated a murder are losing their jobs right now.   A disturbing number of teachers and professors, gov workers among them.     People celebrating murder should not be teaching children or college students.  

    We all need to stand up to the violence. 
      September 17, 2025 10:45 AM MDT
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  • 288

    Naturally, Trumpeedo is doing everything he can to unify the country! Just take a look at one of his recent comments:

    "We have radical left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them."

    As we all know, in Trump’s world, the "radical left" includes pretty much anyone to the left of him

      September 12, 2025 4:21 AM MDT
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  • 12007
    Glad to see you again! 

    Whenever Democrats talk the way Trump does they get accused of fomenting violence. Or, like when Governor Newsom made posts imitating Trump's style, right-wing media made a big deal out of how unbecoming it was for an elected official. The lack of self-awareness is mind boggling. 
      September 12, 2025 7:28 AM MDT
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  • 288

    Thanks! I stopped posting a couple of months ago after someone made an abhorrent comment about Gaza, saying that Israel was “being too nice”. Until this individual is removed, I’m not going to hang around here too often.

    Both sides show a lack of awareness, but it is more pronounced on the far right, led by the person who should be setting an example.

      September 13, 2025 2:06 AM MDT
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  • 35647
    He was not talking about politicians. 
    Listen in context.   He was talking about the violent lunatics.   And being brave for even being outside taking questions.  And if you listen to the rest of the questions/answers, tells people to respond nonviolently. 

    “We have to be brave in life, in all fairness, we have a life. I probably shouldn’t be out here talking to you in all fairness but we will be brave. And we have a great country. We have radical-Left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them."
      September 13, 2025 4:49 AM MDT
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  • 288
    I see you've replied to me, but I haven't read the body of your text.  To be clear, I no longer read anything you post. I'm not interested in your worldview, so don't waste your time responding to my comments - I'll just skip them.
      September 13, 2025 5:12 AM MDT
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  • 35647
    I reply to any post I feel. Just as you do/can.   
    I do not plan to stop that anytime soon. 

      September 13, 2025 7:35 AM MDT
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  • 4818
    I suppose you think the January 6th participants weren't radical right lunatics.  It is absolutely disgusting that they were all pardoned.  So much for Trump being in favor of law and order.  
      September 13, 2025 7:12 AM MDT
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  • 35647
    Some were and some were not. Those that were violent belong in prison.  Those who were not do not.  They all deserved a trial to decide that....but after years many were still just in prison without trial. That is unconstitutional and Trump remedied that. 
      September 13, 2025 7:33 AM MDT
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  • 12007
      September 13, 2025 10:33 AM MDT
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  • 4818
    Your link goes back to 2021.  I found the following on Wikipedia which is more current and which would indicate that none of the J6 defendants are currently being held in jail unless it's for a subsequent offense:

    "In November 2024, Trump was elected president, having repeatedly vowed during his campaign to pardon the rioters.[19] Upon his inauguration on January 20, 2025, he did so, erasing the convictions of all but 14 of about 1,270 people. The remaining 14 people, though their convictions stood, were eligible for immediate release from prison, as he commuted their sentences to "time served."[20][4] Trump himself had been indicted in August 2023 for his actions related to the Capitol attack, but the indictment was dismissed after his 2024 election."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_proceedings_in_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
      September 15, 2025 6:55 AM MDT
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  • 12007
    I was pointing out the reasons that anybody might be still in jail awaiting trial. These few were the most violent or considered to have committed treason. The were not grandmas who got caught up in the crowd and trespassed, or moms and dads waving stop the steal signs.
      September 15, 2025 7:07 AM MDT
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  • 35647
    No one should still be in prison for years without a trial. That is unconstitutional.  
      September 15, 2025 12:48 PM MDT
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  • 4818
    No one is still in prison from the J6 insurrection.

    I found the following on Wikipedia which is more current and which would indicate that none of the J6 defendants are currently being held in jail unless it's for a subsequent offense:

    "In November 2024, Trump was elected president, having repeatedly vowed during his campaign to pardon the rioters.[19] Upon his inauguration on January 20, 2025, he did so, erasing the convictions of all but 14 of about 1,270 people. The remaining 14 people, though their convictions stood, were eligible for immediate release from prison, as he commuted their sentences to "time served."[20][4] Trump himself had been indicted in August 2023 for his actions related to the Capitol attack, but the indictment was dismissed after his 2024 election."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_proceedings_in_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_a
      September 15, 2025 1:04 PM MDT
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  • 24174
    EDIT: For ease of "following conversation"- - my reply here is in reply to my2cents' #9 reply to Pet Eater

    I appreciate your adding some of the context of Trump's unbelievably violent-to-me words. And, even if it were anyone, I still would disagree with a public person saying such things, regardless of context of the surrounding words. 
    But even more so with Mr.Trump, I rarely hear him say anything to bring me to his way of thinking, especially taken in context of everything he says.I daily, daily daily  hear him calling everyone who disagrees with him a "radical" or "lunatic" or many times, some others derogatory name. All the time. He does. calling other names. Very childish to me. And calling names repeatedly to others encourages violence in my opinion.
    Since before he was elected the first time, the man has been openly and blatantly rude, disrespectful, and attacking those who disagree with him.(Again I'll say it -- his incredibly rude behavior  [stalking his opponent behind her as she talked] during a presidential debate is the most childish thing I've ever seen a grown person do who running for president..)

    President Trump openly and excitedly encourages downright division, not unity. 
    Mr. President, this country is the called UNITED States, not 'MyWayOrYou're a LUNATIC'  States. But go ahead and declare a new name for the country.



    This post was edited by WelbyQuentin at September 15, 2025 1:33 PM MDT
      September 14, 2025 4:55 PM MDT
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  • 35647
    I agree the name calling is beneath the office of the President.   
    But that is the political world we are in and have been for a long time. Trump is not the first President to call his opponents names.  Just the first Republican to  do it and not back down. President Biden called me names, President Obama called me names. So as I said that is the world we are in. (Bush's and Clinton likely as well)

    The "racial lunitics" are the violent people trying/succeeding in assassination plots. I personally don't have a problem with that term for them.  (Left or right) 
      September 15, 2025 8:53 AM MDT
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  • 24174
    Yeah, I get it about name calling. I do find that President Trump does it a lot more often than others. That's my impression at least.
    And I've heard trump call people lunatics that are not involved in assassination plots.

    In general I find it ironic that we as adults discourage children from calling other people names.
    Be Well. :)
      September 15, 2025 7:28 PM MDT
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  • 11999

    Yeah his compassion really shined in that second video. He only called Walz a whack job a couple of times – if he wasn't in such deep mourning he would of called Walz a whack job 20 or 30X.

    I don’t think Trump cares about the shooting – he just cares that it is a good distraction and a good way to brew hatred. Cheers!

      September 11, 2025 1:36 PM MDT
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  • 12007
    Trump actually did call Walz after the school shooting, so I don't know what changed. Could it be his supporters wouldn't want him to care if Democrat politicians were shot, but some of them care about children? 
      September 11, 2025 2:29 PM MDT
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  • 35647
    It was a political assassination. That is according to the police and the Gov of UT.  It was not random. It was planned. It was because Kirk was effective with young people.  And the rhetoric used by the left media/politicians.  When they say daily: He is Hitler, his supporters are NAZIs, white supremists, bigots, a threat to democracy etc etc is should not be a surprise that one or more of their supporters decide to "save the democracy." 

    This man was one of the most peaceful, he went to colleges and just talked to the students, he let the people with a different opinion speak their side and then he would say his etc. And they killed him for it. Because he was effective....
      September 11, 2025 10:15 AM MDT
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  • 11999

    I remember a week or so after Nancy Pelosi’s husband was viciously beaten with a hammer Trump sarcastically said – I wonder how Nancy’s husband is doing. Then he went on a 5 minute rant about how awful she is. Cheers and happy weekend!

      September 12, 2025 9:38 AM MDT
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  • 10906
    No. 

    * When we have world leaders who think might makes right and/or call for violence to "solve issues", there will always be people who rise up and follow their orders/lead.  History shows this.

    * When we (meaning the people of the world) teach our children (or other children) - by our actions/reactions (or our lack of action/reactions) - that we tolerate (or sanction) violence or revenge with no consequences, they will repeat it and teach the same to their children.  The proverb - "Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it." - holds true in the opposite as well.

    * So long as there is no justice evil actions will continue.  We let murders get off unpunished or give them a "slap on the wrist".  Many who do evil are let off (bribery, lying, etc.) simply because they are wealthy or hold positions of power.


      September 11, 2025 10:50 AM MDT
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  • 11999

    Charlie Kirk’s killer just turned himself in. His family is strongly republican. Cheers and happy weekend! 




      September 12, 2025 2:30 PM MDT
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  • 12007
    How long will it take Trump to get over the loss of the man he said was like a sun to him?

      September 12, 2025 7:34 PM MDT
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  • 11999

    He could of at least took the time to say he wished that Charlie would of been around to see his new ballroom. Maybe if Trump is asked to say a few words at Kirk’s funeral Trump will say that Kirk loved golf then he will brag that he just golfed a perfect game. Cheers and happy weekend!

     

      September 12, 2025 7:52 PM MDT
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