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Are we going to trust the science? Or just dismiss the science because a politician quoted the studies?

A 2013 HHS-backed study published in the International Journal of Epidemiology concluded that "children exposed to long-term use of paracetamol during pregnancy had substantially adverse developmental outcomes at 3 years of age." [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24163279/]

•A 2017 study published in the Journal of International Medical Research said, "The bottom line is that hundreds of studies describing the epidemiology of autism and the numerous and varied risk factors for autism have a straightforward explanation: autism could be an acetaminophen-induced brain injury facilitated by oxidative stress and inflammation in newborns and young children." [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5536672/#sec14-0300060517693423]

•A National Institutes of Health-funded 2019 study published in the journal JAMA Psychiatry indicated that "[umbilical] cord biomarkers of fetal exposure to acetaminophen were associated with significantly increased risk of childhood ADHD and ASD in a dose-response fashion." [https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2753512]

•A 2023 scientific review published in the Swiss journal Children concluded "without reasonable doubt and with no evidence to the contrary that exposure of susceptible babies and children to acetaminophen (paracetamol) induces many, if not most, cases of autism spectrum disorder." [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814214/]

•A 2024 study published in the journal Clinical and Experimental Pediatrics noted that "careful examination reveals no valid objections to the conclusion that early exposure to acetaminophen causes neurodevelopmental injury in susceptible babies and children." [https://e-cep.org/journal/view.php?doi=10.3345/cep.2022.01319]

•An NIH-supported systematic review published last month in the medical journal Environmental Health noted on the basis of an analysis of scores of studies regarding the relationship between neurodevelopmental disorders, including autism and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, and prenatal exposure to acetaminophen, that "overall, the majority of the studies reported positive associations of prenatal acetaminophen use with ADHD, ASD, or NDDs in offspring, with risk-of-bias and strength-of-evidence ratings informing the overall synthesis." [https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01208-0]

Posted - September 25
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  • 10927
    If your trump and/or his flunkies, you ignore science altogether and go with whatever you can think up on the fly.
      September 26, 2025 8:23 AM MDT
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  • 35710
    No, they are listening to the Dr's and scientists.   Those links above show the links to damage to the unborn from Tylenol usage.  

    Trump is just the only one brave enough to take on Big Pharma and give the warning. So Mother's can be informed and know the possible risk. 
      September 26, 2025 9:46 AM MDT
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  • 10927
    But our president (as well as the people he hired to "help" him run the country) have repeatedly said, "Do NOT trust science!  It's all a hoax!"


    This post was edited by Shuhak at September 27, 2025 3:08 PM MDT
      September 26, 2025 11:57 AM MDT
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  • 35710
    So media is going to dismiss the multiple studies from multiple years and places like the Mayo Clinic, Harvard, NIH etc, because Trump said it. 

    It is hoax when instead of looking ALL the studies they choose to silence the studies that disagree with the desired results.  

    We screamed that the covid shot cause heart issues in young people and the scientists and Dr's were silenced. And now we know the covid shots do indeed cause heart issues.    But it should have been told to people so they could evaluate IF they were willing to take that risk. And should never have had a mandate attached to it.
      September 27, 2025 2:13 PM MDT
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  • 10927
    Wait a minute... aren't you the same person whop was crying foul on this very subject just a few months ago?  Way to flip-flop!
      September 27, 2025 4:12 PM MDT
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  • 35710
    That covid causes heart issues? Nope. I have been screaming that for years. 

    Silencing people, yes I still faul. I am of the old school,  I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight for your right to say it.    
    So no Dr/Scientist, person, etc should be silenced by the government.  This is why, we have the first amendment. 

    No flip flopping here. 
      September 27, 2025 5:08 PM MDT
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  • 12043

    Canada and most of the world trust science – and I think Trump trusts science too.

    Trump trusts/knows that science can make him look stupid and he trusts/knows that science can effect his kickbacks from drug and fossil fuel company's. Cheers!

      September 26, 2025 11:00 AM MDT
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  • 35710
    So why are people determined to ignore the scientific studies linked above? 

    Sad part is the children who will be harmed by this.  
      September 26, 2025 11:09 AM MDT
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  • 4891
    There is a difference between "association" and "causal effect."  Something can be associated with an illness or syndrome without being the actual cause of that syndrome.  There are environmental influences, genetic influence and others that makes it impossible to conclude, by any study, that autism is cause by acetaminophen taken during pregnancy.
      September 26, 2025 1:17 PM MDT
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  • 35710
    Again, they Trump/RFKJ made it clear it is not definitely a cause.  But there is enough evidence of risk that they felt there should be a clear warning to the Mother's of America. 

    Just a cigarette were at one time considered healthy, until scientists learned through studies that there is a risk of causing cancer.  But not everyone who smokes gets cancer.
      September 26, 2025 2:25 PM MDT
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  • 35710
    They have known the possible link for at least 15 years. Here is an internal email with J&J employees.  
      September 27, 2025 2:39 PM MDT
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  • 4891
    First of all, this is illegible and I can't read most of it.  Secondly, how many studies have been done over the past 15 years that have been unable to positively link Tylenol with autism?
      September 27, 2025 3:06 PM MDT
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  • 35710
    If you read the letter it specifically says the studies are linking Tylenol. AND eliminated Ibuprofen.  They knew and they ignored it. 
      September 27, 2025 5:12 PM MDT
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  • 4891
    If I could have read the letter, I wouldn't have said it was illegible!  That meant that I COULDN'T READ IT!

    Don't bother to respond because I have no interest in continuing this conversation.  
      September 28, 2025 9:57 AM MDT
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  • 35710
    I cannot make it larger. But you can do a Google image search and it will summarize the letter. 
      September 28, 2025 12:46 PM MDT
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  • 4891
    I have no interest in continuing this conversation.  Not sure what part of this you don't understand.
      September 29, 2025 8:39 AM MDT
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  • 24209

    It may depend on the subject of science research.

    I know that there is a lot of science research that strongly indicates that the current (over the past century) climate change is, at the least, affected by human activity.
    Yet, many people don't trust the science and they dismiss the results for whatever reason.
      September 26, 2025 5:40 PM MDT
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  • 35710
    True. But we do not silence those who we disagree with. Science does not do that. 
    I do not believe we have as much influence over the climate and watching those who claim we do, leads me to believe they do not believe it either. 
    If they did they would not fly their private jet to the climate change conference.  

    I do not believe because none of their studies predictions or models ever come through.  The ice caps were supposed to be gone 10 or 15 years ago. They are not and the ice in thicker. 

    So it is not just dismissed because of the conclusions.  We are not silencing those studies, we just do not find them to be accurate results.   Because science results should be predictable if we actually understand they result. 
      September 27, 2025 2:33 PM MDT
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  • 24209
    I know I went off-topic, actaully.
    I didn't share very well my intended thought. I know you've previously shared your thoughts on climate change, My point is - - that we, as individuals (and maybe even some groups), bring ourselves to whatever we encounter in life, including science/research/medical studies etc. and I think we'd all tend to bring our already-arrived-at previous opinions/thoughts to the newly encountered research/study/whatever.
    I tend to think we'd pull toward thoughts we already had.

    But - - to your posted question - - if there is medical research out there that may help people, then share it.

    (I've not followed closely this specific situation.)

    EDIT: Corrected a typo and as I reread my reply here in the middle of the night, wide awake, it still doesn't make any sense to me. Do know that I include myself in all the above-mentioned"we's."


    This post was edited by WelbyQuentin at September 30, 2025 12:43 AM MDT
      September 29, 2025 2:21 PM MDT
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  • 12045
    I shall continue trust the FDA, rather than politicians or other laypersons.
      September 28, 2025 7:57 AM MDT
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  • 4891
    If he FDA doctors and scientists are replaced by this administration, it will no longer be safe to depend on them for the scientific truth.
      September 28, 2025 10:03 AM MDT
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  • 12045
    I know, but chose not to say so to avoid conflict. If that day comes, I will have to explore other options.
      September 28, 2025 10:19 AM MDT
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  • 4891
    I hope that long before that day comes, doctor associations and scientists figure out a way to get their findings across to the public without having to rely on formerly reliable government agencies.
      September 29, 2025 8:42 AM MDT
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