Going topless in Ft Collins Colorado, just made legal. Your thoughts?

I think you make the right decision.

Response my previous comment was made for has been edited afterwards. It is no longer the original which the comment was made for. 

I was trying to be a little humorous with my reply but no just because you guys do it is only part of the reason.  Just because you do it?  That's called treating people equally under the law and having a law that applies to one sex but not the other isn't treating people equally under the law.

I don't see why it should be illegal in the first place.  Asking why we shouldn't have the law is asking me to prove a negative.  You should have to prove the positive which means it's on you to make the case for having the law.

Your argument about demanding urinals in our bathrooms doesn't hold water because it's a slippery slope.

If you can tell me why we need the law I can have more of a discussion about with you but I just don't see why it should be illegal in the first place.

Great answer.
My point, if the.reason for women to.want to.go. bare free....if the ONLY reason is to do it JUST because men do it. 
Don't you think that's silly?
Then anything could be.argued based solely on that. I want to do this or that because that guy over there does it.
Then women could demand urinals in their bathrooms because they also should have the.right to upright peeage.
So the argument of, just because men do it, is just plain silly.
Now.
If you say to me, as you do, that there's a law that applies to women that doesn't apply to men, and that's unfair....then I can accept that. 
I can debate it...but I can accept it as discrimination. 
I agree with you on that.
And this is the first I see the point brought up here, btw.
But that's very far from saying, just cause the men do it.
Do you see what I mean?

Really? It's what I have been saying all the time. Equal rights. No discrimination based on sex. Smh.

Well there you go. Aren't you happy you understand now?

I've understood it all the time. Seems more someone else has tried to pull my replies in another direction by picking up single words and taking them out of context, although having had all replies at hand all the time as the OP. Btw, I don't see what happy has to do with this. 

We're just talking Sapphic, 
Just talking.
Be happy.

Talking isn't by any means ridiculing someone else. Bye. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at February 24, 2017 9:46 AM MST

Relax Sapphic, you shouldn't give me that much importance. Im just some guy. 

Nothing further to add.

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See you make the point very well ... and I don't think it's even just in the west that we see breasts as sexual... the fact is they ARE sexual.. even in those tribes with women who don't wear a bra.. do we really know WHY? Maybe keeping them unclothed is a way of marking them out as sexual beings.. as in kept that way so men can freely enjoy the sight? We don't know enough, and we don't think deeply enough but this is not a simple matter.

I agree, it's not simple....

I would be interested in the actual real reasons why various women who so dress in Fort Collins would choose to do so.

Your daughter's cool!

Who says the one excludes the other, we can only have the one of them? Go figure.

This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at February 24, 2017 4:37 AM MST

Let me start with the latter. Education might be an illusion but the only hope if we want to get anywhere in any progress, and not just for the subject of equal rights. In my world education is not only about the one we get on the school bench, you might as well say becoming enlightened. 

Of course there should be equal rights within any subject, and wherever we are in the world. The same goes for any sexuality that differs from heterosexuality. We all know, or should at least be aware of the world isn't a homogeneous place. That however, shouldn't stop progress in one place before the other is at the same stage. It just means we got a long road ahead of us. Let me ask you this back, is it a problem/an issue to have equal rights within this area? Does it prevent or hold back other progressions? I have a hard time following your arguments/objections to what I have said. Might be on my side though.

So you would actively encourage women in such places as I cited to demand such a right, and that getting their breasts out is indeed a worthy leveller - progress, as you put it.
And as for the equality of right in this area, I am still undecided.

I think you read something in to my reply that isn't there. Undecided. Hmm. So we should tolerate sex specific laws. Interesting.

On the contrary. I am, as we speak, lobbying in favour for the right for penises in public. Good news, eh. This post was edited by Benedict Arnold at February 24, 2017 5:45 AM MST

So you're undecided on how to feel about equal rights on the rights to walk topless, however a free willy will be your thing. The penis is a reproductive organ just like the vagina is. As far as I am aware there are no laws discriminating on wearing our reproductive organs uncovered in public spaces. Have me corrected if so.

I'm curious. Is Tim Robards appearance in the photo below a matter of sexually exposure of his upper body, or not? Is it okay, it is by law? Should laws be enforced by how sexually we are, what is ugly, and how ugly, or sexually unattractive should we be to be allowed walking around topless? Oh, and this question isn't meant personally for you but it popped into my mind reading the threads here, and by the comments I have met. I am truly curious about this.